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Re: Cloudy comments

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Corey Rossen wrote: Gleeful? Withstood from far better?

You are a joke.

How am I gleeful?

Why are you insinuating that I am the one trying to bring it down?

Would you be nice to me if I were to say or scream "I AM SAVING LAKEWOOD HOSPITAL" or "JIM O'BRYAN IS LAKEWOOD'S GOD" or "THIS KOOL-AID TASTES GREAT, I WISH I WERE DRINKING IT ALL ALONG?"

The graffiti is winning - just look at its leader. You attack me on this. Hilarious. Now back to your keyboard pedestal.

Corey


Dude, no one was talking about you? WTF?


I was talking about "the graffiti on the Deck."


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Re: Cloudy comments

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Jim O'Bryan wrote:
Corey Rossen wrote: Gleeful? Withstood from far better?

You are a joke.

How am I gleeful?

Why are you insinuating that I am the one trying to bring it down?

Would you be nice to me if I were to say or scream "I AM SAVING LAKEWOOD HOSPITAL" or "JIM O'BRYAN IS LAKEWOOD'S GOD" or "THIS KOOL-AID TASTES GREAT, I WISH I WERE DRINKING IT ALL ALONG?"

The graffiti is winning - just look at its leader. You attack me on this. Hilarious. Now back to your keyboard pedestal.

Corey


Dude, no one was talking about you? WTF?


I was talking about "the graffiti on the Deck."


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Riiiight. Sure doesn't sound that way from your post.
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Re: Cloudy comments

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Cloudy indeed.

Corey,

Your are such a transparent dark cloud.

You bring the clouds trying to hide the sunshine.

Your Bylines attack Jim, the Deck and the LO every time you post but you make the fiction you are neutral. Your posts continually treat Jim, the Deck and the LO as one and the same and you defile them in every post.

You are like a bully who retreats to his dark victim status when called to answer--you hide.

Jim and the LO have helped Jordan's Family Foundation but it seems you have destroyed it.

Based on your IRS filings:

In 2014, Charitable contributions to JFF dropped to just 33% of what they were in 2012.

In 2013 Charitable giving by JFF dropped to just 11% of what they were in 2012.

According to the 2013 filing, the net amount of gifts and grants given of by JFF was only $1,205 and your efforts amounted to 58 cents going to charity for every hour you claim you worked on JFF that year.

Your could have spent the same 20 hours per week flipping burgers and giving your pay to charity and netted more for charity.

But you come on the Deck and call a foundation I just started "fraudulent" because you view me as an agent of Jim.

The Deck in not a solution to your unhappiness and tearing it down will not help your freinds either.

The sunlight is coming through and the folks can see you squirming.
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Looks like thread drifting to me. Will this be moved to another area of the Deck too? Just curious!
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Re: Cloudy comments

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Brian Essi wrote:Cloudy indeed.

Corey,

Your are such a transparent dark cloud.

You bring the clouds trying to hide the sunshine.

Your Bylines attack Jim, the Deck and the LO every time you post but you make the fiction you are neutral. Your posts continually treat Jim, the Deck and the LO as one and the same and you defile them in every post.

You are like a bully who retreats to his dark victim status when called to answer--you hide.

Jim and the LO have helped Jordan's Family Foundation but it seems you have destroyed it.

Based on your IRS filings:

In 2014, Charitable contributions to JFF dropped to just 33% of what they were in 2012.

In 2013 Charitable giving by JFF dropped to just 11% of what they were in 2012.

According to the 2013 filing, the net amount of gifts and grants given of by JFF was only $1,205 and your efforts amounted to 58 cents going to charity for every hour you claim you worked on JFF that year.

Your could have spent the same 20 hours per week flipping burgers and giving your pay to charity and netted more for charity.

But you come on the Deck and call a foundation I just started "fraudulent" because you view me as an agent of Jim.

The Deck in not a solution to your unhappiness and tearing it down will not help your freinds either.

The sunlight is coming through and the folks can see you squirming.
I think you need a hug.

You're right, unfortunately our contributions are down in direct relation to our donation income. Care to make a contribution? We'd love to see you support children with heart disease. Every penny counts. You can start to make a difference today.

Our fundraising efforts and income have gone down in the past few years but our efforts remain the same, if not more. In fact our events and outreach have grown, just not our income. This year we will not even hold a fundraiser, just our community event. Sponsorship is available and we look forward to any of your potential contributions.
Corey Rossen

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Corey Rossen wrote:
Brian Essi wrote:Cloudy indeed.

Corey,

Your are such a transparent dark cloud.

You bring the clouds trying to hide the sunshine.

Your Bylines attack Jim, the Deck and the LO every time you post but you make the fiction you are neutral. Your posts continually treat Jim, the Deck and the LO as one and the same and you defile them in every post.

You are like a bully who retreats to his dark victim status when called to answer--you hide.

Jim and the LO have helped Jordan's Family Foundation but it seems you have destroyed it.

Based on your IRS filings:

In 2014, Charitable contributions to JFF dropped to just 33% of what they were in 2012.

In 2013 Charitable giving by JFF dropped to just 11% of what they were in 2012.

According to the 2013 filing, the net amount of gifts and grants given of by JFF was only $1,205 and your efforts amounted to 58 cents going to charity for every hour you claim you worked on JFF that year.

Your could have spent the same 20 hours per week flipping burgers and giving your pay to charity and netted more for charity.

But you come on the Deck and call a foundation I just started "fraudulent" because you view me as an agent of Jim.

The Deck in not a solution to your unhappiness and tearing it down will not help your freinds either.

The sunlight is coming through and the folks can see you squirming.
I think you need a hug.
Good substantive come back.
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Re: Cloudy comments

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Brian Essi wrote:
Corey Rossen wrote:
Brian Essi wrote:Cloudy indeed.

Corey,

Your are such a transparent dark cloud.

You bring the clouds trying to hide the sunshine.

Your Bylines attack Jim, the Deck and the LO every time you post but you make the fiction you are neutral. Your posts continually treat Jim, the Deck and the LO as one and the same and you defile them in every post.

You are like a bully who retreats to his dark victim status when called to answer--you hide.

Jim and the LO have helped Jordan's Family Foundation but it seems you have destroyed it.

Based on your IRS filings:

In 2014, Charitable contributions to JFF dropped to just 33% of what they were in 2012.

In 2013 Charitable giving by JFF dropped to just 11% of what they were in 2012.

According to the 2013 filing, the net amount of gifts and grants given of by JFF was only $1,205 and your efforts amounted to 58 cents going to charity for every hour you claim you worked on JFF that year.

Your could have spent the same 20 hours per week flipping burgers and giving your pay to charity and netted more for charity.

But you come on the Deck and call a foundation I just started "fraudulent" because you view me as an agent of Jim.

The Deck in not a solution to your unhappiness and tearing it down will not help your freinds either.

The sunlight is coming through and the folks can see you squirming.
I think you need a hug.
Good substantive come back.
I know, my bad. Fat fingers on a quick trigger. I
Corey Rossen

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"I am not neutral." ~Jim O'Bryan

"I am not here to stir up anything." ~Jim O'Bryan
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Re: Cloudy comments

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Brian Essi wrote: Based on your IRS filings:

In 2014, Charitable contributions to JFF dropped to just 33% of what they were in 2012.

In 2013 Charitable giving by JFF dropped to just 11% of what they were in 2012.

According to the 2013 filing, the net amount of gifts and grants given of by JFF was only $1,205 and your efforts amounted to 58 cents going to charity for every hour you claim you worked on JFF that year.

Your could have spent the same 20 hours per week flipping burgers and giving your pay to charity and netted more for charity.
Since you took such time and effort to look us up - thank you!

I like how you skew stats, a great angle to take. You however forgot to mention some of your findings.

There is no income or salary for the work I do, or anyone does, for the charity. All 100% volunteer work. I have stated this previously, nearly each time you flung mud at our charity.

Fundraising is hard to do. One of our largest hurdles has been finding a venue that does not absorb the majority of the money we take in for the event. This has been our largest detractors in our fundraising efforts. Up until 2012 we had a venue that we could raise more than we spent in overhead, since then we have been seeking a new place. Do you have any ideas where we should look for a great venue with little overheard and is accessible to all people? Any insight would help.

You also forgot to mention that nearly all of the money we take in also goes back out in donations to local areas such as the American Heart Association Cleveland Chapter and the Lakewood City School Department. We have absolutely no salaries to pay and very little in office supply overhead (other than posters, etc for event) so we are able to give back what we take in. We are not seeking profit, only better health for children with heart disease and their families.

Do you have any connection to the health care industry? Maybe they could help.

It is very admirable of you to attack a local, grassroots charity that helps children with heart disease - I'm sure you must be proud of yourself. Keep going, you are really making a name for yourself.
Corey Rossen

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"I am not neutral." ~Jim O'Bryan

"I am not here to stir up anything." ~Jim O'Bryan
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Corey Rossen wrote:
Brian Essi wrote: Based on your IRS filings:

In 2014, Charitable contributions to JFF dropped to just 33% of what they were in 2012.

In 2013 Charitable giving by JFF dropped to just 11% of what they were in 2012.

According to the 2013 filing, the net amount of gifts and grants given of by JFF was only $1,205 and your efforts amounted to 58 cents going to charity for every hour you claim you worked on JFF that year.

Your could have spent the same 20 hours per week flipping burgers and giving your pay to charity and netted more for charity.


You also forgot to mention that nearly all of the money we take in also goes back out in donations

Not completely accurate

Facts:

2014 60%
2013 26%
2012 63%

That's simple math from your 990's

Ken Warren was right--give a guy a keyboard and he will dig himself a hole.

Have you filed your 2015 990 yet?
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Re: Cloudy comments

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Brian Essi wrote:
Corey Rossen wrote:
Brian Essi wrote: Based on your IRS filings:

In 2014, Charitable contributions to JFF dropped to just 33% of what they were in 2012.

In 2013 Charitable giving by JFF dropped to just 11% of what they were in 2012.

According to the 2013 filing, the net amount of gifts and grants given of by JFF was only $1,205 and your efforts amounted to 58 cents going to charity for every hour you claim you worked on JFF that year.

Your could have spent the same 20 hours per week flipping burgers and giving your pay to charity and netted more for charity.



You also forgot to mention that nearly all of the money we take in also goes back out in donations

Not completely accurate

Facts:

2014 60%
2013 26%
2012 63%

That's simple math from your 990's

Ken Warren was right--give a guy a keyboard and he will dig himself a hole.

Have you filed your 2015 990 yet?

Again, you're kind of right. Money does carry over from year to year. What we don't donate in one filing is donated by the next and so on.

We can fight about this all you want, but I am right.

Keep attacking a charity, I'm sure it helps your ego.

edit added: Don't forget to include the expenses when doing your math on percentages donated vs money in the bank. Less income, more expenses, carry over, repeat...
Corey Rossen

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"I am not neutral." ~Jim O'Bryan

"I am not here to stir up anything." ~Jim O'Bryan
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No need to argue.

Here are the 990's.

The math is simple.

Do you think that your childish behavior on the Deck may have contributed to the drop?
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Brian Essi wrote:No need to argue.

Here are the 990's.

The math is simple.

Do you think that your childish behavior on the Deck may have contributed to the drop?
208640418_201412_990PF.pdf
208640418_201212_990PF.pdf
208640418_201312_990PF.pdf
As stated previously - Don't forget to include the expenses when doing your math on percentages donated vs money in the bank. Less income, more expenses, carry over, repeat...

Not sure what your ego is getting out of this.

Maybe you need to find a more productive hobby.
Corey Rossen

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"I am not neutral." ~Jim O'Bryan

"I am not here to stir up anything." ~Jim O'Bryan
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essi is not the solution to children with heart disease. don't be jealous of his great heart, rossen.
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The numbers don't lie.


This isn't the "Big Short." Don't try to complicate it.

Line 25 page 1. Part VIII line 1 page 6.

58 cents netted to charity per hour you claimed to work on this in 2013.

$1.75 per hour in 2014

If you actually earned a wage in that time and contributed your net pay to your charity, more children would be helped.

How did you fair in 2015?

Work smarter, not harder.
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Brian Essi wrote:The numbers don't lie.


This isn't the "Big Short." Don't try to complicate it.

Line 25 page 1. Part VIII line 1 page 6.

58 cents netted to charity per hour you claimed to work on this in 2013.

$1.75 per hour in 2014

If you actually earned a wage in that time and contributed your net pay to your charity, more children would be helped.

How did you fair in 2015?

Work smarter, not harder.
Thanks you for the advice.
Corey Rossen

"I have neither aligned myself with SLH, nor BL." ~ Jim O'Bryan

"I am not neutral." ~Jim O'Bryan

"I am not here to stir up anything." ~Jim O'Bryan
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