"Lakewood Hospital" signage removed from the 108 Year Old Institution

[Brian Essi]

So they have removed the Lakewood Hospital signs from Lakewood Hospital after 108 years.

Congratulations Summers, Bullock, Madigan, and Butler. Your names will be written in stone in Lakewood's list of notorious villains.

Congratulations to CCF's Cosgrove and Brian Donley too. You really made Summers and his team look foolish calling for an "emergency" to save y'alls more money.

P.S. Jim Kenny and Jeff Rorhs---It ain't a "hospital" if you can't stay and be cared for overnight. That's why they took they signs down so as to not confuse people about what happens inside. Note that they kept the "Cleveland Clinic" signs to make sure we all know whose it is now.

[Bridget Conant]

Brian

You studied the contract more closely than I. Who currently "owns" the hospital building.

If the city owns it, who removed the sign? Who authorized it?

[Lori Allen _]

They took the sign down because there is no more Lakewood Hospital, just the CCF Urgi Care Center. Perhaps if Judge O'Donnell had put a stay order on the court case while he took time to read over the "voluminous" amount of information, the hospital would still be there. Why was a new judge not requested? After all, he practically shares a property line with a defendant and accepted campaign contributions from LHA members (LHA is a defendant). Why was he not asked to recuse himself?

http://www.americanbar.org/groups/profe ... ation.html

Not accusing anyone, but this is something to think about.

[Brian Essi]

Brian

You studied the contract more closely than I. Who currently "owns" the hospital building.

If the city owns it, who removed the sign? Who authorized it?

Bridget

You are right that the City owns the building but LHA still leases it from the city and CCF essentially owns LHA now--essentially a wholly owned subsidiary. LHA and its trustees are a complete legal fiction now.

[Lori Allen _]

Perhaps if a change of judge was requested due to what appears to be cronyism this would not be a discussion right now.

[Patrick Wadden]

So if Skindell wins the election do you think that LH stays open?

[Patrick Wadden]

Come on, Bridget Condent, Brian Easi, what's the answer? Bottem line. Skindell's campaign was absolutely horrible. Nate Kelley and Summers offered Skindell and Markling the one thing that they needed to win the election and Skindell and Markling turned it down. A debate about ALL things about Lakewood was turned down. Do you think that anybody in Lakewood that wanted to "save lakewood hospital" voted for Summers? Do you think that anybody that wanted to "Build Lakewod" voted for Skindell?

[Bridget Conant]

So Patrick, how's the windshield wiper fluid pump working for you? Eh?

[Patrick Wadden]

Good, how was Hawaii? Do you get the Fusion fixed? Is the cloth on your Fusion fixed?

[Bridget Conant]

[Patrick Wadden]

Your Mom is a really nice person. It was nice talking with her. We have a lot of friends in common. The hospital issue never came up in our conversation.

[Jim O'Bryan]

Come on, Bridget Condent, Brian Easi, what's the answer? Bottem line. Skindell's campaign was absolutely horrible. Nate Kelley and Summers offered Skindell and Markling the one thing that they needed to win the election and Skindell and Markling turned it down. A debate about ALL things about Lakewood was turned down. Do you think that anybody in Lakewood that wanted to "save lakewood hospital" voted for Summers? Do you think that anybody that wanted to "Build Lakewod" voted for Skindell?

Was the debate a missed opportunity? I think you put too much stock in debates.

Patrick, take a step back, and look at the election, what it all stood for, as an unbiased observer, does any of it make sense?

I really believe Mayor Summers long history, likability, and networks. The hospital issue hardly mattered.

If you believe there were only two sides and there wasn't.

One side wanted to save a "outdated" health facility and make the Cleveland Clinic potentially honor its contract. BIG MAYBES

One side wanted to "build" something that was never explained, no numbers, no drawing, just one meeting to "dream big as long as it is one of these three old ideas." HUH?

If this election was about that, and that was the driving force, Lakewood is doomed.

If they voted for Mayor Summers and his ideas because Mike Summers is a likable guy, with a ton of friends and a massive network behind him.

I can live with that and have hope for Lakewood. That at least makes sense.

Jim

[Brian Essi]

Come on, Bridget Condent, Brian Easi, what's the answer? Bottem line. Skindell's campaign was absolutely horrible. Nate Kelley and Summers offered Skindell and Markling the one thing that they needed to win the election and Skindell and Markling turned it down. A debate about ALL things about Lakewood was turned down. Do you think that anybody in Lakewood that wanted to "save lakewood hospital" voted for Summers? Do you think that anybody that wanted to "Build Lakewod" voted for Skindell?

Patrick,

You seem angry about the hospital closing and now want to change the subject backward to the election and the false narrative that the hospital could not be saved.

The facts are that the hospital was well positioned, well funded and profitable prior to Summers' press conference on January 15, 2015. Over $85M in liquid assets to support it and about $8M in profits for 2013-2104.

Implied in your questions are that Summers did all he could to save it. The opposite is true even Summers has now admitted that in 2011 he alone determined (before Subsidium was hired) that the hospital was "unsustainable".
So he and others proceeded to tank it. Even CCF insiders agree on this.

So if even an intelligent insider like you can be lied to and fooled as to Summers being somehow a champion of the hospital, what does that say about the average Joe on the street believing Summers wanted to save the hospital? After the election SLH followers increased and many newbies were surprised to learn that Summers wanted to close the hospital.

I want to build Lakewood and I voted for Skindell and I consider myself a conservative--for transparent, responsible and accountable government--no tax increases---that would have happened if Skindell won.

As I understand it, Skindell asked Summers for a debate about the hospital and Summers cowered from it because he is a coward--from the time he got the Triad push poll results in August (paid for by LHA/CCF) he never spoke a word about the hospital because he knew it was poison.
Did the people need a debate about trash collection when the incumbent mayor, Madigan, Butler and Bullock were proactively destroying the city's largest employer that accounted for 14% of city payroll taxes in 2014 and millions in economic impact to businesses?

He lied to and misled you and the general public to get elected--that's what true politicians do---not local heroes.

You can say whatever you want about Skindell, but he never lied and he ran a squeaky clean campaign against a very popular incumbent.

Skindell is a Lakewood hero and history will prove him completely right. He stood up against corruption and huge corporate interests when nobody else in politics did.

Here it comes...your anger reveals that you realize there will be culpability for "death and debility" that Terry Kilroy M.D. and the UC San Fran study predicted was inevitable.

That fact remains that it was all avoidable and Summers was the single most important bad actor that made it happen. When he goes down, Bullock, Butler and others will follow or "sing" to escape the consequences of their actions.

Patrick, its time to move forward together as a community and have members accept the consequences of respective roles, decisions and actions---looking backward at the November election will not insulate Summers and his cohorts from their bad acts--the law and/or the highest authority will do that.

But thousands of members of the community have spoken more recently than, and they say they want an up or down vote on this important issue.

Do you think they have that right?

Do you think that Council should delay that right?

Can we move forward as a community together?

[Lori Allen _]

I probably am thread drifting here a little, sorry. If there was no special deal for Summers and his network of friends, then why was there no open bidding process for the hospital? I believe this is illegal. It appears that Summer's friends reach above city government into the county, maybe even state and federal levels. He did get support from Antonio, Brown and Kaptur. Summers,council and CCF plowed right through this deal without a fear in the world. Is there the possibility that those higher up are aiding and abetting the process? A federal investigation should have been called for.

[stephen davis]

A debate about ALL things about Lakewood was turned down.

There was an opportunity to hear candidates' positions "about ALL things about Lakewood". Too bad so few people attended, or were even aware of it.

I attended the League of Women Voters candidate forum/debate in the Lakewood City Hall Auditorium. I was told to put away my phone when I attempted to take a photo. No recording by still camera, video, or audio was allowed by the League. I'm still sorry I complied, as I think the rules could have been legitimately contested. That was a public forum/debate that included all candidates in a public place. Because of League rules, nobody, outside the attendees, got to see or hear what happened there. The voters were the losers. The League should be embarrassed for imposing information control in a public setting. That would seem counter to their mission.

Do you think that anybody in Lakewood that wanted to "save lakewood hospital" voted for Summers?

Yes, but we don't know how many. There is no way to measure that. Voters are more nuanced than politicians and pollsters think. Playing the mandate card is often a dishonest manipulation of fact.

Do you think that anybody that wanted to "Build Lakewod" voted for Skindell?

Yes, but we don't know how many. There is no way to measure that. Voters are more nuanced than politicians and pollsters think. Playing the mandate card is often a dishonest manipulation of fact.


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