Fairview Hospital has no beds for surgery patients

[Corey Rossen]

CCF doctors do everything in their power to put patients first, but the "system" interferes. So its not in the planning of the hospital--its the operation and management of entire system.

CCF doctors, nurses and staff are great. But a "system" does have budgets, max caps and bottom lines. It would be great to have a system without any of those limits, but in reality they exist. One hopes to not come eye to eye with those limits but it happens. The system only allowed for 40 beds (or whatever the actual number is) on the Children's Floor and we were bed #41. My guess is that the system thought 40 beds was enough for any given day at the hospital. We went eye to eye with the limit the system put in place, it happens. It would be great if there were no budgets, no max caps and no bottom line, but that doesn't even work when you are spending someone else's money. There is a human side to the management in the medical field and that involves setting the "cut off" number, or blame it on the algorithm of the financial model within.

Corey

What do they call it in psychology when someone does everything they can to avoid facing the facts?

Are you denying the fact of budgets, bottom lines and max caps? The new psyc term would be the "Essi Denial Theory" in that case.

Corey

Are you denying that there are "human beings" behind the planning with a systematic philosophy that does not put patients first?

I ask a simple question and you get defensive and go back to personal attacks. The question was about you, not me. Why do your posts consistently avoid the basic facts in the posts you are responding to? What would your educational background tell you that means?

There is no need to be so defensive and angry. I'm not.

I did not think I was being defensive or angry with my response. My bad, I will speak softer.

I have said that human beings are behind the decisions. Those human beings have to make "cut off" points which apparently you do not favor or think are necessary. I am not over looking any facts you have offered up, I am just seeing the practical, real life side. With your basis and lack of looking at real life decision making, maybe you and your checkbook are to blame for the current hospital situation. With the Essi Limitless Funds Plan you could have offered to buy the hospital, heck you don't have a budget when funds are limitless. You can dress it up nicely, chandeliers in every room topped off with a Kureg on each counter top, hey why not - there is no bottom line after all. Be sure to leave one exterior wall of the hospital unfinished so that you can continuously add on when another patient shows up due to the fact that there are no maximum capacities under your management. See how ridiculous it sounds. The fact of the matter, there are always limits.

Does this mean that psychologically speaking you are not facing the fact that limits exist? To answer your previous question, in your case, it would be deemed delusional.

Corey

[cameron karslake]

Let's not lose sight of the fact we are talking about the Cleveland Clinic. A $6.5 billion corporation that had a $1billion dollar "profit" last year. Of course, being a "non-profit," all that $ is deemed "unrealized profit" in order to satisfy the feds. This is no ordinary corporation by any means.

[Brian Essi]

With your basis and lack of looking at real life decision making, maybe you and your checkbook are to blame for the current hospital situation. With the Essi Limitless Funds Plan you could have offered to buy the hospital.
Corey

Very interesting.

People managing CCF are not responsible for the hospital closing-----I am to blame for the hospital closing?