Once a TRUST has been violated, it can rarely, if ever be restored

[Brian Essi]

According to Mayor Summers, CCF has violated the "spirit and letter" of their agreements.

Those agreements involved legal mechanisms for oversight by LHA and the City and still CCF' violated the agreement and trust.

Yet the City is now pursuing another agreement with CCF that will absolve CCF of its sins and leave CCF in control of a "transformation" of healthcare for Lakewood without any provision for oversight.

Written agreements are only as good as the parties to them.

"Once a trust has been violated, it can rarely, if ever be restored." W. Wilson Caldwell

Does anyone think that the TRUST can be restored?

[Lori Allen _]

There never was trust and there never will be. I believe the next hearing for the SLH law suit is this Thursday. The Mayor, Council, LHA, LHF and CCF are listed as defendants. In other words, the city administration is using the tax dollars of every Lakewood citizen to fight for the clinic and not we citizens. We claim to be the "Healthiest city in America"? More and more bars and smoke joints just keep opening up. This is great economic development that pays minimum wage. I will sit back now and prepare to be blasted!

[Dan Alaimo]

Brian,
"According to Mayor Summers, CCF has violated the "spirit and letter" of their agreements."

When did the Mayor say that? Recent, or was he just putting out one of many fires along the way to the election?

If he understands that CCF has violated our trust, why do we continue to deal with them in spire of a very competitive (but "changing") health-care environment?

[Matthew Lee]

Out of pure intellectual curiosity, because I always enjoy learning new things, who is W. Wilson Caldwell and where/when did he/she say the quote about trust? I Googled it and probably did something wrong because the only place this quote showed up in the Google search results is in two posts (including this one) on the Observer Deck. Thanks!

[Corey Rossen]

Out of pure intellectual curiosity, because I always enjoy learning new things, who is W. Wilson Caldwell and where/when did he/she say the quote about trust? I Googled it and probably did something wrong because the only place this quote showed up in the Google search results is in two posts (including this one) on the Observer Deck. Thanks!

The quote could actually refer to a financial trust, but works in any sense of the word "trust." Besides, who would make up a quote just to have it appear on the Observation Deck!

Let's see if it works...

Trusts are a way of holding assets with a specific goal in mind. At its simplest, a trust can be used to avoid probate, a sometimes lengthy process in which a will is made public along with the assets bequeathed. A trust allows for fast transfer and no public disclosure.

or...

A relationship in which one party, known as the trustor, gives to a person or organization, known as the trustee, the right to hold and invest assets or property on behalf of a third party, known as the beneficiary. Most trusts exist to provide for the financial future of a minor child or mentally incompetent person. Trusts may also be set up to benefit charitable organizations. The trust agreement indicates at what time, if any, the beneficiary takes direct control of the assets. The beneficiary often receives disbursements to meet basic expenses until the time comes when the beneficiary takes control. Trusts are taxed on all money not given to the beneficiary.

or...

A legal arrangement whereby control over property is transferred to a person or organization (the trustee) for the benefit of someone else (the beneficiary). Trusts are created for a variety of reasons, including tax savings and improved asset management.

...See..it works.

[Brian Essi]

Out of pure intellectual curiosity, because I always enjoy learning new things, who is W. Wilson Caldwell and where/when did he/she say the quote about trust? I Googled it and probably did something wrong because the only place this quote showed up in the Google search results is in two posts (including this one) on the Observer Deck. Thanks!

Matthew,

W. Wilson Caldwell was one of the finest human beings I ever had the pleasure of knowing.
He put his younger brothers through college before he was able to enter college and then work his own way through law school--one of his younger brothers was Philip Caldwell.

Philip Caldwell (January 27, 1920 – July 10, 2013) was the first person to run the Ford Motor Company who was not a member of the Ford family. He orchestrated one of the most dramatically successful turnarounds in business history.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Caldwell

Wilson was also the most honest lawyer I have ever known.

[Brian Essi]

Brian,
"According to Mayor Summers, CCF has violated the "spirit and letter" of their agreements."

When did the Mayor say that? Recent, or was he just putting out one of many fires along the way to the election?

If he understands that CCF has violated our trust, why do we continue to deal with them in spire of a very competitive (but "changing") health-care environment?

Dan,


He wrote that and more in the attached letter:

Summers2014.07.03.Summers-Donley.LTR-ProtestRehabMoveSelect.pdf

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Summers July 3, 2014: "I believe the services losses are in violation of the letter and spirit of the definitive agreement between the Lakewood Hospital board of trustees and the Cleveland Clinic Foundation."

BTW the Rehabilitation Service Summers complained about is opening on December 8, 2015---three weeks from now--So Summers failed to stop them--Madeline Cain stopped them. So who was "stronger"?

Regarding your last question, I have trouble getting past the premise "If he understands that CCF has violated our trust"---I just don't think he understands.

Please recall his only answer to date as to why he wrote the letter was that he wrote it when he was wearing his "Mayor's hat." So he must not have had that hat on for the past year and a half.

[Matthew Lee]

Thanks, Brian,

Definitely seems like an interesting person.

I still don't see a link to the quote though. Do you have a link to his quote? Thanks!

Matthew

[Brian Essi]

Thanks, Brian,

Definitely seems like an interesting person.

I still don't see a link to the quote though. Do you have a link to his quote? Thanks!

Matthew

Matthew,

The only link I am aware of was from Wilson's lips to my ears to my keyboard.

Are you having difficulty with the axiomatic nature of the quote or just that you doubt my attribution to Wilson?

[Matthew Lee]

Generally, when attributing a quote, it is cited somewhere (usually on the Internet, but could be anywhere). No worries if not, just trying to educate myself.

[Corey Rossen]

Generally, when attributing a quote, it is cited somewhere (usually on the Internet, but could be anywhere). No worries if not, just trying to educate myself.

No worries, real people and real names are not required on the Deck.

Stan

[kate e parker]

Are you having difficulty with the axiomatic nature of the quote or just that you doubt my attribution to Wilson?

both.

[Brian Essi]

Are you having difficulty with the axiomatic nature of the quote or just that you doubt my attribution to Wilson?

both.

Kate,

CCF is in the process of shutting down Lakewood Hospital in violation of the agreement and without Council's approval.

So you think that CCF should be trusted with the future of healthcare in Lakewood even though they have violated the "letter and spirit" of the existing agreement which has caused near fatal damage to the hospital?

What acts has CCF taken or can they take to restore the trust?

[Dan Alaimo]

Brian,
"According to Mayor Summers, CCF has violated the "spirit and letter" of their agreements."

When did the Mayor say that? Recent, or was he just putting out one of many fires along the way to the election?

If he understands that CCF has violated our trust, why do we continue to deal with them in spire of a very competitive (but "changing") health-care environment?

Dan,


He wrote that and more in the attached letter:

Summers2014.07.03.Summers-Donley.LTR-ProtestRehabMoveSelect.pdf

Summers July 3, 2014: "I believe the services losses are in violation of the letter and spirit of the definitive agreement between the Lakewood Hospital board of trustees and the Cleveland Clinic Foundation."

BTW the Rehabilitation Service Summers complained about is opening on December 8, 2015---three weeks from now--So Summers failed to stop them--Madeline Cain stopped them. So who was "stronger"?

Regarding your last question, I have trouble getting past the premise "If he understands that CCF has violated our trust"---I just don't think he understands.

Please recall his only answer to date as to why he wrote the letter was that he wrote it when he was wearing his "Mayor's hat." So he must not have had that hat on for the past year and a half.

I thought he was elected to wear the Mayor's hat full time.

[Brian Essi]

Brian,
"According to Mayor Summers, CCF has violated the "spirit and letter" of their agreements."

When did the Mayor say that? Recent, or was he just putting out one of many fires along the way to the election?

If he understands that CCF has violated our trust, why do we continue to deal with them in spire of a very competitive (but "changing") health-care environment?

Dan,


He wrote that and more in the attached letter:

Summers2014.07.03.Summers-Donley.LTR-ProtestRehabMoveSelect.pdf

Summers July 3, 2014: "I believe the services losses are in violation of the letter and spirit of the definitive agreement between the Lakewood Hospital board of trustees and the Cleveland Clinic Foundation."

BTW the Rehabilitation Service Summers complained about is opening on December 8, 2015---three weeks from now--So Summers failed to stop them--Madeline Cain stopped them. So who was "stronger"?

Regarding your last question, I have trouble getting past the premise "If he understands that CCF has violated our trust"---I just don't think he understands.

Please recall his only answer to date as to why he wrote the letter was that he wrote it when he was wearing his "Mayor's hat." So he must not have had that hat on for the past year and a half.

I thought he was elected to wear the Mayor's hat full time.

Dan,

It's a "ball of confusion" and befuddled secrecy.

When considering potential resolutions, do you think it matters if he is simply misguided or if it is purposeful obfuscation on his part?