No garbage service so Mayor can have his New Jail?

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Shelley Hurd
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Post by Shelley Hurd »

Gary Rice wrote:ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! :lol:

WHERE was that banjo?????????????? :oops:

Seriously, it is interesting how ordinarily disparate people are coming together in this particular rant-race (my new word- like it?)

Whazzat Arlo Guthrie sung about if you had 3 people, some might think it's a movement? :D
Seems we are getting a movement :D

Anyone else notice all the hits for this thread over the "Christmas" Holiday!
We have lurkers, lots and lots of lurkers, who seem to be hungry for a little information and opinion which represents their voice and not the Mayors agenda.
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Had this brought to my attention:

http://ci.lakewood.oh.us/pdf/2006_Plann ... rogram.pdf

Anyone know how to read these things? What does implications does it show for the current refuse division lot?
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Shelley Hurd wrote:Had this brought to my attention:

http://ci.lakewood.oh.us/pdf/2006_Plann ... rogram.pdf

Anyone know how to read these things? What does implications does it show for the current refuse division lot?
What implications does it show for the current refuse division lot?

Sorry, had one too many "Does" in there :oops:
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Post by Shelley Hurd »

blah, this has nothing to do with the refuse lot. Refuse is on Berea Rd... my bad.... sorry no idea why this was sent to me. :oops:

I should have looked more closely befor I posted a question. :oops: :oops:
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Shelley Hurd wrote:blah, this has nothing to do with the refuse lot. Refuse is on Berea Rd... my bad.... sorry no idea why this was sent to me. :oops:

I should have looked more closely befor I posted a question. :oops: :oops:
Ok this IS about Berea rd.... I need to go have more coffee and study this pdf Alot more before I post again :oops: :oops:

Lord, I am a goober sometimes.

So any insight on this ?

http://ci.lakewood.oh.us/pdf/2006_Plann ... rogram.pdf
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Post by Missy Limkemann »

i have been lurking, not really saying much. pain pills will make me say things I might regret later on. LOL.
Wasnt there an old saying "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"....
Time is precious, waste is wisely
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Post by Shelley Hurd »

Missy Limkemann wrote:i have been lurking, not really saying much. pain pills will make me say things I might regret later on. LOL.
Wasnt there an old saying "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"....
Yes, but theres also a new saying.... Jails dont build themseves
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Post by Jim DeVito »

Sorry perhaps I missed it, but where is the evidence that the city Is going to use the money saved from changing waste management practices and build a jail with it?
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Jim DeVito wrote:Sorry perhaps I missed it, but where is the evidence that the city Is going to use the money saved from changing waste management practices and build a jail with it?


Where is the evidence they won't?
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Post by Shelley Hurd »

Shelley Hurd wrote:
Jim DeVito wrote:Sorry perhaps I missed it, but where is the evidence that the city Is going to use the money saved from changing waste management practices and build a jail with it?


Where is the evidence they won't?
The title of this thread poses a question, it is not declarative statement.

"No garbage service so Mayor can have his New Jail?" (see the question mark)
8)

If you have evidence to the contrary, please share. :? :shock: :)
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Post by Jim DeVito »

Shelley Hurd wrote:
Jim DeVito wrote:Sorry perhaps I missed it, but where is the evidence that the city Is going to use the money saved from changing waste management practices and build a jail with it?


Where is the evidence they won't?
hmmm... Seems kind of silly to spend page after page arguing or something that may or may not ever happen without any knowledge one way or another.

I liked it better when we could all just argue over the merits of the new trash collection system. Again I will say I am with Mr DeVito on this one. Bring all your trash to the curb and have 2 guys with lower old truck come pick it up. Could save money over the current process and eliminate the need to spend 5 million dollars on new trucks.
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Post by Will Brown »

Having a lot of lurkers doesn't necessarily mean that there is great interest in the subject, nor that anyone agrees with your arguments. Perhaps we follow this thread because the observer lacks a comics section and we get some amusement from some of the postings here. We'd probably buy tickets to a freak show, too, if they still held them. So when one poster harps incessantly on the providing of medical care for prisoners, which is required by law, that is worth a good laugh.

I'm against the automated pickup service, but for aesthetic reasons, and because I don't think the advocated have demonstrated that it will work in a crowded community such as Lakewood.

I've lived in towns that had municipal service, that had privatized service contracted by the city, and in a city where no service was provided, and you had to find your own provider. All worked. One advantage of providing your own service is that those of us who recycle seriously and try to limit our waste, could find a provider at a lower cost than our neighbor who generates four times the trash.

Given limited resources, a problem for the city that is almost certain to grow worse, I would much prefer keeping our excellent fire and police services, and leaving disposal services to the individual resident.
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Post by Shelley Hurd »

Will,

At least we have some common ground. 8)
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Post by Shelley Hurd »

Will Brown, the lawyer who graduated from Cleveland State?
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