Lakewood Park Shoreline Project Moves Forward

Ruthie Koenigsmark · Post by **Ruthie Koenigsmark** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:28 am

Found this in the Sun Post

http://blog.cleveland.com/lakewoodsunpo ... rojec.html

can anyone explain to me why citizens would want to pay for a $800,000 fishing pier??? Did anyone else know about this or are you all surprised as I am?

Jim DeVito · Post by **Jim DeVito** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:14 pm

Interesting. I did not know about the $800,000 fishing peer. Not so sure we need another fishing peer. The other plans sound nice. But it would be nice if the below quote could be moved to the top of the list.

In terms of long-term planning, the possibility of creating a beach was also considered.

Jim O'Bryan · Post by **Jim O'Bryan** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:24 pm

Jim DeVito wrote:Interesting. I did not know about the $800,000 fishing peer. Not so sure we need another fishing peer. The other plans sound nice. But it would be nice if the below quote could be moved to the top of the list.

In terms of long-term planning, the possibility of creating a beach was also considered.

This is insane.

One great idea needed a $30,000 study maybe and would have paid for everything else.

A $800,000 fishing pier, when they are looking according to one councilman for $900,000 in savings.

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Ruthie Koenigsmark · Post by **Ruthie Koenigsmark** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:29 pm

Yep--it's nuts! So, who do we tell?

Jim O'Bryan · Post by **Jim O'Bryan** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:34 pm

Ruthie Koenigsmark wrote:Yep--it's nuts! So, who do we tell?

Ruthie

Might not be as big as deal as we are making it out to be.

I have seen upwards to 10 people at the pier at Gordon Park or Edgewater Park.

Now those 20 could come to Lakewood and snag sheephead.

Compare that to backyard trash pick up for all. I think we can see clearly which way this will go.

Maybe a green initiative, catch carp instead of a can of gefilte fish?

baby steps.

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Jill Jusko · Post by **Jill Jusko** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:44 pm

It appears that the information came from the Public Works Committee, which was scheduled to meet Nov. 24. Michael Dever appears to be the chair of the committee. Maybe he can elaborate.

Gary Rice · Post by **Gary Rice** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 2:12 pm

FISHING?

Who said anything about FISHING?

Not that I want to disparage that biblically inspired pastime...but...

You can fish down in the Valley all over the place. Oh, excuse me Jim, the Emerald Canyon.

You can also fish on the beautiful pier at Edgewater Park, that great Bradstreet Landing pier just over in Rocky River and several other close-by locations I can think of around here...etc. etc. etc.

I wanna beach!

I wanna beach!

I WANNA BEACH!!!!

Just imagine fisherpeople tootling by all your picnic tables at Lakewood Park on a Sunday afternoon with their fragrant catches of perch, catfish, and carp

Ed FitzGerald · Post by **Ed FitzGerald** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:08 pm

Before some people get carried away, the $800,000 figure is a total project estimate for the next phase. There is no money budgeted for it currently, and no money has been expended on Phase 2.

The city received over $700,000 for the completion of Phase 1 from the Ohio Department of Natural Resources and other state grants, and the hope is that we could get more state or federal funding to make Phase 2 practicable.

Jim O'Bryan · Post by **Jim O'Bryan** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:12 pm

Ed FitzGerald wrote:Before some people get carried away, the $800,000 figure is a total project estimate for the next phase. There is no money budgeted for it currently, and no money has been expended on Phase 2.

The city received over $700,000 for the completion of Phase 1 from the Ohio Department of Natural Resources and other state grants, and the hope is that we could get more state or federal funding to make Phase 2 practicable.

Mayor FitzGerald

As always thanks for coming in and setting me/us right. I was actually going to talk with you and councilman Dever tomorrow morning about this.

Thanks again.

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Gary Rice · Post by **Gary Rice** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:00 pm

I join with Jim in appreciation for Mayor FitzGerald's taking the time to provide clarification on this, and other issues concerning Lakewood.

Unfortunately, with the somber financial reports coming out of Columbus, I wonder how much will be allocated, either short, or long-term from the state level, for much of anything in Ohio?

Ruthie Koenigsmark · Post by **Ruthie Koenigsmark** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:47 am

I think the point is do the citizens want to make Phase 2 as it stands
a reality my guess would be "NO"...and who has mapped out the Phases...would love to see the plan in it's entirety...would anyone else?

Barbara Michel · Post by **Barbara Michel** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 8:59 am

Absolutely

Rhonda loje · Post by **Rhonda loje** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:57 am

Based on all the new information that has come to light I think that this plan should be evaluated again. I think this plan is several years old. There have been many ideas floated on this the deck that should be considered that we not part of the first evaluation process.

Rhonda