Copper Pipe Theft

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Justine Cooper
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On a side note, we are ALL quality people, children of God, and at least on this Easter week it would be refreshing to stick to posts, and not personal attacks on others. :P
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Justine Cooper wrote:[I actually really like this idea. Did anyone see the elderly lady on the news (I think in Cleveland) who came home from church to find all her copper pipes stolen? So she had not only flooding, but NO drinking water or usable water until a plumbing company (I wish I could remember who) saw the story and came out and DONATED all new plastic pipes and labor for her. It was so heartwarming to see in these days, but what about the ones that don't have that and can't afford new pipes? The elderly, or single moms with children to take care of. Strict strict penalties have to be in place for the thieves and for the ones buying the copper.
It was Nagy Plumbing Service.
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Justine Cooper
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Rick Uldricks wrote:. Our blockwatch group has been trying to make the several vacant homes on our street look occupied by taking turns parking in the driveway, having curtains put in the windows, putting trash in the tree lawn on trash day and yes, cleaning up the unwanted newspaper bags around these properties, etc. But really, there's only so much we can do.
I think that is a great idea and I think you should write an article encouraging others to do block watches. If we get every street covered, it will be harder for the criminals, and if everyone is aware of which houses are vacant and do like you do, it could make a difference.
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Someone was also busted recently in Westlake:

http://www.wkyc.com/video/player.aspx?s ... &aid=58841
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i've passed a lot of empty shopping centers and old industrial buildings over the years. would they have copper pipes?
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It's highly possible - a historic building in Elyria was just hit:

http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_article.a ... ryid=86050
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Justine Cooper wrote: On a Lakewood note, after reading the PD Sunday, and the front page being focused on the declining housing market, I noticed three stories of people not being able to sell their home, and one story of a professional couple CHOOSING LAKEWOOD FOR VARIOUS REASONS AND GETTING A STEAL OF A HOUSE FOR A GREAT PRICE! Not only great PR for Lakewood, but it really got me thinking about how, as the devastation gets worse and worse for house owners and thus the economy, Lakewood COULD be "the last man/city standing" after it bottoms out. I really believe that, and I think it comes down to simple things that are already in place:

1. You can get a great house for less money;
2. walkability and access to Cleveland and highways of course;
3. The gorgeous new schools, regardless of opinions against them, they will be huge asset and attraction to home buyers for a long time coming!;
4. Love or hate JOB, the groundwork that he has laid out with not just the Observer, which I now see as an integral catalyst for helping to "save" Lakewood, but all the projects that he has sprung from this innovative paper, including but not limited to LEAF (I think he helped launched but apologies if I am incorrect), MAMA, DADA, LIA, and the various other community volunteer programs that have been initiated TO DO GOOD THINGS IN LAKEWOOD WITHOUT A NEED FOR SALARIES OR MORE TAXES;
5. The shops and little businesses-yes people still love the charm of those which is why so many dedicate time to keep those alive! They make us different!
6. The parks and libraries of course which are miles above other communities IMHO and view of the lake from one.

Justine

Oh My God, how did I miss this one!

Thank you, thank you from the board!

I would like to add to these thoughts. This is not just laid out by JOB. I have /had the help of some of the brightest most innovative minds in Lakewood. Go back and look at everything the LO and board members have been doing and what we have been preaching from day one.

Food Security - LEAF
Biking - Bike Lakewood
ART - Lakewood Is Art
Fun - Lakewood Motoring Society
Business - MAMA / DADA
Economics - Community Currency
Cost Savings - Emerald Canyon Co Op
Security - Walk Lakewood

and another 30 programs not even talked about yet.

Yes, it is the infamous Visionary Alignment For Lakewood. the thing many tried to paint as some evil thought process to drag Lakewood down is just the opposite. A plan to save Lakewood from the very small thinkers, who would love nothing more than to turn Lakewood into another empty strip mall, a county dump or something else not controlled by the city that has its future in its own hands right now.

Go back and read the threads from the first year, you will be shocked. As it was mentioned then and again now. The city is cash poor, but resident rich. Poor in what the city can afford to do and wealthy in what the citizens can do. So how do we empower citizens to do more, while the city works on SAFE and CLEAN? Pretty simple a newspaper, and a forum where people use real names, can meet and work together.

I would like to go one step further right now. Think of the "movers and shakers" that stay away or do not take part? Why? Are they too good to share their ideas for Lakewood? Is it better to vet ideas and visions, or to form little coffee clatches to spring on the public later? I truly hope the era of secret meetings to decide the future of Lakewood is over.

Last week I was reminded but one of the "movers and shakers" of this community that the LO is biased, and has an agenda. that his views were not shared by the Observer. I then asked when did he post his views? The answer was "rarely." I then asked where were his articles for the paper, and he said, "well I have sent some in, but not about what I think is important for Lakewood to know." I then asked if the ones he sent in were published, and he admitted yes they were with no edits or anti-editorials.

Of course we all know my answer, "Well put up or shut up."

The Lakewood Observer is nothing more than a FREE tool for City Hall, the Chamber, MAMA, DADA, LIA, MainStreet, The Hospital, LakewoodAlive, Bike Lakewood, Lakewood Motoring Society, the Schools and the residents to use to get information, without prejudice, editing or fear of not being printed.

Think about that, right now the City is studying ways to get information out, and create a new website. Meanwhile the Observer sits FREE and ready to do it. The schools, looked for a way to get information out and create a website then ended up going out of town and spending $40,000 and hours and hours studying it, yet the Observer sits here community owned FREE and willing to help. What is their fear of working hand in hand with the residents on the community owned paper?

None of us on the Advisory Board can make any sense from this dramatic pull back, at this waste of time and money by schools and city, when they claim money, time and effort is tight.

In 2008 we will again roll out a couple new projects, like all the rest we have launched, designed to move the city forward, without prejudice, our only agenda, the same from day one. Allow residents, business, politicians, teachers to know and understand more about Lakewood than ever before. To make all information more accessable, FREE and available without edits, attitudes, or complications. Through that we can help to see a future for Lakewood that is CLEAN, SAFE, GREEN and FUN.

FWIW


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John Guscott
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Post by John Guscott »

Today's New York Times featured an article on the copper-pipe thieving epidemic in NEO: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/08/busin ... ref=slogin

Depressing not only for the rise in copper theft and the increasing need to be vigilant of one's own property, but also for the negative impact on Cleveland's reputation.

With the string of negative articles abt our region in national/international publications, who from parts elsewhere would ever be enchanted to want to relocate here, when all they have are visions of boarded up houses and petty scavengers picking at the bones?
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