Barack Obama Comes To Lakewood!

Heidi Hilty · Post by **Heidi Hilty** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:20 am

Stan,
Here is the elevator speech of why.

I support Obama because I agree with David Wilhelm that the Democratic nominee will not be able to "out experience" John McCain. Hillary's campaign is focused on experience, Obama's is focused on change. I think we need change beause all the experience in Washington DC just hasn't worked out imho.

In addition, I have never seen the younger generation this engaged (nationally) since 1968 - when the whole world was watching - which gives me hope. Obama is overwhelmingly their candidate and it is, afterall, their future.

Heidi

Bret Callentine · Post by **Bret Callentine** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:02 pm

If we're to accept title of "first lady" as directly equating to experience, then my question is, why didn't Hillary accomplish everything she's pitching now in the eight years she already had to get the job done?

My only concern with Obama is that "change" doesn't exactly equate to "progress". How often have the Browns "Changed" head coaches, while we all "Hope" for a championship season?

And with McCain; am I supposed to vote for the Republican he was, the Republican he is now, or the Republican he might be later?

So far I'm not sold on anyone.

Bill Call · Post by **Bill Call** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:42 pm

Heidi Hilty wrote:In addition, I have never seen the younger generation this engaged (nationally) since 1968 - when the whole world was watching - which gives me hope. Obama is overwhelmingly their candidate and it is, afterall, their future.
Heidi

Obama is about the future not the past because the past was yesterday and campaigns about hope are about tomorrow not yesterday but the future. United we can be together in hope for the future cause even as I honor the past experience that is really in the past not the future.

Lynn Farris · Post by **Lynn Farris** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:06 pm

I think Heidi may be seeing exactly what we are seeing with her children especially her son getting excited about Obama. (I'm basically the same demographic as Heidi, I think.)

If you listen to the endorsements - you hear many of them saying from Caroline Kennedy, to Maria Shriver to the Senator from Kansas yesterday that their children are really pushing them to support Obama. I know it is a rare conversation that I have with my son any more that he doesn't mention Obama.

When 2 candidates have basically the same policies and one is generating this kind of enthusiasm from our children - you have to take notice.

For us Baby Boomers - I think it reminds us of when we were young and believed that we could make the world a much better place. With all the cynicism the have seen in the last few years, it is hard not to be moved by the excitement he is generating.

Bill Call · Post by **Bill Call** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:21 pm

Lynn Farris wrote:For us Baby Boomers - I think it reminds us of when we were young and believed that we could make the world a much better place. With all the cynicism the have seen in the last few years, it is hard not to be moved by the excitement he is generating.

Hope: http://www.wisdomquotes.com/000505.html

I'm really looking forward to the Obama general election campaign. Vacuous nonsense wraped around socialism at home and surrender abroad. Like fish in a barrell!

How about: A trillion dollars in tax increases to give the United Nations the money it needs to end poverty.

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/print/oba ... nate-vote/

Dee Martinez · Post by **Dee Martinez** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:24 pm

Bill Call wrote:Vacuous nonsense wraped around socialism at home and surrender abroad. Like fish in a barrell!

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As opposed to a hundred years in Baghdad and war without end against anyone with a mustache and a prayer rug? Not to mention a president who freely admits hes an economic illiterate?

Just as I was getting ready to compliment you on your Kaufman Park coup.

Bill Call · Post by **Bill Call** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:30 pm

Dee Martinez wrote:As opposed to a hundred years in Baghdad and war without end against anyone with a mustache and a prayer rug? Not to mention a president who freely admits hes an economic illiterate?

It's going to be fun. Sharpen your pencil and remember rule number 12:

http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pag ... textonly=0

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:50 pm

Dee Martinez wrote:
Bill Call wrote:Vacuous nonsense wraped around socialism at home and surrender abroad. Like fish in a barrell!

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As opposed to a hundred years in Baghdad and war without end against anyone with a mustache and a prayer rug? Not to mention a president who freely admits hes an economic illiterate?

Just as I was getting ready to compliment you on your Kaufman Park coup.

Funny how hate can cloud the truth... just sayin

Lynn Farris · Post by **Lynn Farris** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:01 pm

Friedrich Nietzsche
Hope is the worst of evils, for it prolongs the torments of man.

Bill, that is a real downer and I hope McCain uses it.

Kind of interesting campaign slogan. Thanks, you gave me my laugh for the day.

Brian Pedaci · Post by **Brian Pedaci** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:35 pm

Bill, I'm looking over the text of that bill and trying to find where it lays out a specific increased funding mandate. I see where *in 2005*, the G-8 nations agreed to increase their foreign aid to Africa to the tune of $25B annually, but I don't see where the article's assertion that .7% of the GNP would be mandated.

I do see continued investments in programs to reduce disease, increase trade in developing countries and expanding debt relief. All of these things could lead to a net positive ROI.

The US has already committed to the goals of the UN Millenium Summit to reduce by half the number of people in the world who subsist on less than $1/day by 2015. This bill apparently officially reaffirms our commitment to that goal, and calls for an assessment and evaluation of what the US should contribute to reach that goal.

Bill Call · Post by **Bill Call** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:15 am

Lynn Farris wrote:
Friedrich Nietzsche
Hope is the worst of evils, for it prolongs the torments of man.
Bill, that is a real downer and I hope McCain uses it. Kind of interesting campaign slogan. Thanks, you gave me my laugh for the day.

I wasn't sure what to make of the quote. To me it means hope is passive. "I hope that someone fixes that roof" vs "Let's fix the roof".

I see many Obama supporters as hopers, people sitting in a chair, staring at their feet shaking their heads mumbling "I hope the governments going to do something about this".

Anne Steiner · Post by **Anne Steiner** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:28 am

Bill Call wrote:

I see many Obama supporters as hopers, people sitting in a chair, staring at their feet shaking their heads mumbling "I hope the governments going to do something about this".

Well I see it the oppoisite way. If Obama can get people excited by his speeches, then maybe they will be excited enough to involve themselves in the process, to get informed.

I'm fairly 'young', but when I hear Clinton I just hear 'politics as usual'. Plus for a fair amount of my adult life a Clinton or a Bush has been in office. Its time for a change....I hope...

Jim O'Bryan · Post by **Jim O'Bryan** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:32 pm

Bill Call wrote:
Lynn Farris wrote:
Friedrich Nietzsche
Hope is the worst of evils, for it prolongs the torments of man.

Ain't that the truth.

The code word for electability is the word "change."

Never mind what that change is.

FWIW

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Anne Steiner · Post by **Anne Steiner** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:42 pm

Has the office moved? Went there today to get a sign and there were no signs of life.

Ivor Karabatkovic · Post by **Ivor Karabatkovic** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:49 pm

I talked to one of Barack's campaign people and they said that the office will be functioning in a few weeks. For now, it's a meet up for volunteers to go door to door and to get people to vote.

They'll be having door to door walks all day friday and saturday.

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