Crocker Style?

Jim O'Bryan · Post by **Jim O'Bryan** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:32 am

Last night while driving around we ran into almost 2.5 square miles of development that looked like Crocker Park East.

Miles of new units

Massive playgrounds

Equally massive recreation center.

Busy streets with old style street lights.

popped up almost over night.

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stephen davis · Post by **stephen davis** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:11 pm

Jim,

That place was a LOT nicer than Crocker Park, and LOTS bigger.

Steve

sharon kinsella · Post by **sharon kinsella** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:57 pm

It's beautiful.

Where is it?

stephen davis · Post by **stephen davis** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:10 pm

sharon kinsella wrote:Where is it?

East side, around the corner from my favorite caterer.

Steve

sharon kinsella · Post by **sharon kinsella** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:20 pm

You two are the Deliberately Obscure twins, separated at birth, I swear.

Jim O'Bryan · Post by **Jim O'Bryan** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:25 pm

stephen davis wrote:
sharon kinsella wrote:Where is it?
East side, around the corner from my favorite caterer.

Steve

Steve

Actually it was just west of one of Sharon's favorite caters.

A whole perfect little city nearly the size of Lakewood!

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sharon kinsella · Post by **sharon kinsella** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:38 pm

Over by Hot Sauce Williams.

That is very cool!

Ruthie Koenigsmark · Post by **Ruthie Koenigsmark** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:07 pm

where is it exactly???

R

Ryan Patrick Demro · Post by **Ryan Patrick Demro** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:50 pm

Its on Woodland next to Tri-C metro. It has been there for quite some time. I pass it on my way home from work, so it has been there for at least two years. It seems nice, but it is located next to Outhwaite Projects. It is nowhere near the size of Lakewood.

Bryan Schwegler · Post by **Bryan Schwegler** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:52 pm

Ryan Patrick Demro wrote:Its on Woodland next to Tri-C metro. It has been there for quite some time. I pass it on my way home from work, so it has been there for at least two years. It seems nice, but it is located next to Outhwaite Projects. It is nowhere near the size of Lakewood.

That is correct. It's an example of one of the low-income housing communities that have been developed over the last several years in the central neighborhood in Cleveland. It is part of the hope of improving the community through redevelopment.

sharon kinsella · Post by **sharon kinsella** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:00 pm

Hope it works - that area has had a rough time.

dl meckes · Post by **dl meckes** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:38 pm

I can't tell whether that's the new Central low income housing project, but if it is, it's an interesting take on city life.

Garage-free town homes with limited access to public transportation and basic services. Dave's opened a store in the neighborhood. There hadn't been a grocery store in some time...

Bryan Schwegler · Post by **Bryan Schwegler** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:53 pm

I'm on the Cathedral Council at Trinity Cathedral and we do alot of work with the poor and homeless in that area since it's the closest neighborhood to the Cathedral.

Last fall we went on a bus tour led by the head of one of the development groups building these new projects. There are many positive things about them and honestly, when we stopped and toured a couple of the homes, they were very nice.

However, he did admit that alot of the other chronic problems of the area aren't being solved by the new construction. There are still deep-rooted, structural problems in those neighborhoods.

Jim O'Bryan · Post by **Jim O'Bryan** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:57 pm

sharon kinsella wrote:Over by Hot Sauce Williams.

That is very cool!

While I love eating chicken with Maurice and the sons. At night, walking around E77th and Carnegie at 11:30pm and looking for a good steak dinner, there is only one place, Sharon you know that.

Lancer's Steak House
Where all us players go for red meat.

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Jim O'Bryan · Post by **Jim O'Bryan** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:06 pm

Over the last couple years it would have looked like this section of the CMHA Projects.

now, it is like driving up to a development in Westlake or Avon Lake, surround by massive empty fields.

Coming in from East 30th.

Large safe playgrounds.

Crocker Park style living.

Row after row of single homes too. New and rebuilds.

Meanwhile over in Hough...

and...

but no too many of these...

FWIW

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