Kauffman Park - Plans to Redevelop?

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Post by sharon kinsella »

Bryan -

I am by no means an expert on everything - but one thing I do know is people. I have no patience with people who promote themselves to be one thing and then do something else behind the scenes. Like I said, there are somethings that you don't know, just like there are some things that I don't know.

For the public good is subject to interpretation and up to the Supreme Court, you are correct. But the interpretation of "for the pubic good" is a very subjective statement.

Also, after the election, when the rest of the financial disclosure statements come out, you and I should go out for an "I told you so" dinner LOL!

My criteria for people is that I'll believe and respect them unless they show themselves to be unbelievable and unworthy of respect (at least for me). Don't think that I am making presumptions. I have worked on the campaigns of a couple of the candidates, not just the ones you think I support. I have changed allegiances by experiencing huge disappointments with some of them, when certain things came to light. The one's that disillusioned me know exactly why I have a problem with them, because I told them so. A couple of them I had to tell many times before they finally believed me.

The results of this election with be whatever they will be. Some candidates will live up to or exceed at expectations, some will fail miserably.

Oh well, I'll just be glad when this whole nightmare election cycle is over.

Then on to the next primary!
"When I dare to be powerful -- to use my strength in the service of my vision, then it becomes less and less important whether I am afraid." - Audre Lorde
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Post by sharon kinsella »

Forgot to add.

I originally was not only supporting Ed, but I was promoting him also. I now support Tom George.

Originally I was supporting Tom Bullock, I am now supporting Dan Shields.

What is that song? "I see the world from both sides now".
"When I dare to be powerful -- to use my strength in the service of my vision, then it becomes less and less important whether I am afraid." - Audre Lorde
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Post by michael gill »

Sharon,

Among the very many things I don't know:

What is "boi"?
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Post by Grace O'Malley »

Oh, don't be coi. :lol:
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Post by Jeff Endress »

I think the proper spelling is "Koi"
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Post by Grace O'Malley »

I wasn't referring to a fish.
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Post by Stephen Eisel »

michael gill wrote:Sharon,

Among the very many things I don't know:

What is "boi"?
The same as calling some one a fag.
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Post by Kate McCarthy »

Jim O'Bryan wrote:Can you say, without qualification, that you'd never agree to sell
Kauffman Park?

Regarding Kauffman Park, I regret to say that this Administration has been very secretive about the scope of the plans there, with both City Council and the residents surrounding the park. I have been informed that somehow the green space would be moved to another location, but I must admit that I will believe that when I see it.


Kate, can you tell me where it says he will not sell Kaufamn Park? He was asked "Can you say, without qualification, that you'd never agree to sell
Kauffman Park?" and never answered it.

Would that not lead you to believe that he would sell it off?
No. That's a leap of logic I would not make.
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Post by sharon kinsella »

Steve -

Right definition - wrong terminology for a straight man to use "fag".
That phrase is an insult from straight people and an insider word for those in the community.

Michael -

Any family terms you would like to know - I will gladly help you with them.

Grace -

Yeppers - that would be me LOL!
"When I dare to be powerful -- to use my strength in the service of my vision, then it becomes less and less important whether I am afraid." - Audre Lorde
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Post by Shawn Juris »

Kate,
Welcome to the wonderful world of JOB logic.
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Post by Stephen Eisel »

sharon kinsella wrote:Steve -

Right definition - wrong terminology for a straight man to use "fag".
That phrase is an insult from straight people and an insider word for those in the community.

Michael -

Any family terms you would like to know - I will gladly help you with them.

Grace -

Yeppers - that would be me LOL!
got ya... Thanks
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Post by Bryan Schwegler »

sharon kinsella wrote: Also, after the election, when the rest of the financial disclosure statements come out, you and I should go out for an "I told you so" dinner LOL!
I'm gonna hold you to that ;)
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Post by Kate McCarthy »

Rick,

I agree Valerie made some excellent points as did Don Farris.
Donald Farris wrote: I'm concerned the City Administration will give away a Park here, not put the property up for competitive bidding. They do not need any funds to place a property up for a competitive bid process. Nor are funds needed to issue a request for proposal. If the City Administration feels we would benefit from selling off a Park why don't they issue a open bid request for proposal on how developers or others would like to utilize the space and see what they would be willing to pay for the property. Then we as a City could look at all options presented and either select the best or we could decide we like the Park better than any of those ideas. This can all be done in the open, if our elected officials want to be open.

Finally, I'm concerned that this promise of replacing "green space" will be done using eminent domain. Eminent Domain for creating a park is a legitimate use. What an amazingly "ungreen" idea - Build a development on a park and then destroy good structures to create a park.

If the Mayor does not plan on placing the sale of our Park to open bid I hope he returns the funds he has received from the developer that will be profiting from the Park give away. It may be legal, but it isn't right. And I have to believe that any candidate for the Mayor of this great City wants to do the right thing.
The city should be in the driver's seat regarding any development associated with the park, not the other way around. The developers have already purchased the property. The city owns the park. Who has the leverage?

Second, destroying the built environment to replace the green space makes very little environmental sense. Why can't the one acre main street wants be swapped with the developer with possibly some other concessions and have Foxx Field reoriented in the park. We don't need a fancy pants ball field with turnstiles. Can't it serve the leagues and serve the neighborhood for pick up games at the same time? And demo has consequences. The amount of built space that would need to be demoed to replace Foxx Field is significant. Most structures are old and may contain, while stable now, lead paint and asbestos. Who wants all that released into the environment and even the new owner of Drug Mart Plaza has a less than stellar record in that regard.

http://www.dep.state.pa.us/dep/deputate ... 049914.htm

Finally, to eliminate any appearance of a quid pro quo, the mayor could donate the campaign contributions from the developers to possibly Kid's Cove.
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Post by sharon kinsella »

Bryan -

You got it kiddo!
"When I dare to be powerful -- to use my strength in the service of my vision, then it becomes less and less important whether I am afraid." - Audre Lorde
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