Tuesday Night, all quiet.

c. dawson · Post by **c. dawson** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:43 pm

what do you mean, Lakewood has no good pizza? Angelo's is damn fine pizza!!! Some of the BEST in Cleveland!

And yes, it's not New York pizza ... thankfully. New York style doesn't hold a candle to Chicago style. Now THAT'S some serious pizza (though I will say that the Chicago-style at Danny Boy's in 'River is actually better than the "real" Chicago-style stuff I've had in Chicago at Pizzaria Uno, Giordano's, and Lou Malnati's).

Just a reminder folks, Anthony Bourdain's "No Reservations" show tonight at 10pm on the Travel Channel is set in CLEVELAND! Don't forget to watch!

Stan Austin · Post by **Stan Austin** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:44 pm

Jeff-- After reviewing the facts, I think there is another common factor here--- and it ain't water, and it ain't Lakewood.

Stan

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:44 pm

c. dawson wrote:what do you mean, Lakewood has no good pizza? Angelo's is damn fine pizza!!! Some of the BEST in Cleveland!

And yes, it's not New York pizza ... thankfully. New York style doesn't hold a candle to Chicago style. Now THAT'S some serious pizza (though I will say that the Chicago-style at Danny Boy's in 'River is actually better than the "real" Chicago-style stuff I've had in Chicago at Pizzaria Uno, Giordano's, and Lou Malnati's).

Just a reminder folks, Anthony Bourdain's "No Reservations" show tonight at 10pm on the Travel Channel is set in CLEVELAND! Don't forget to watch!

Thanks, now I am hungry for Angelo's.

Angelo's does have great pizza..

dl meckes · Post by **dl meckes** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:45 pm

Jeff Endress wrote:Dl

Could it be the proximity to water

There's no doubt that some of Lakewood, NY's problems are because it is on a lake. Most of the crimes have been crimes of convenience. The population swells over the summer and people are careless. Opportunists with no impulse control, perhaps emboldened by each other, prey.

But in a tiny lakeside (primarily vacation) community, there are problems with crime.

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:48 pm

Jim O'Bryan wrote:Sharon

Next weekend you got it.

We were thinking of a month fo proch sitting on different proches around town, but I am sure I can bring the wrecking crew to our neighborhood.

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I live close to the highway so we sit in the backyard.. But you are more than welcome to come join us...

Kenneth Warren · Post by **Kenneth Warren** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:23 pm

ThereÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s no heading for the hills. About a month ago, I visited my 92 year old mother-in-law in Elma, NY, a burb about 17 miles outside Buffalo. Her home is set among houses built in the 50s on one - five acre plots and farmland recently turned into $300K cul de sac McMansions.

I parked in the driveway and forgot to lock my car doors. In the morning the doors of the car were wide open and about 100 compact discs were stolen.

Now my wife, who didnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t like the tunes I was playing on the road there anyway, is worried more for her mother, living alone with the horses, cul de sacs and the punks roaming the Elma hood, than she is for me when I travel with Mr. OÃ¢â‚¬â„¢Bryan to Ã¢â‚¬Å“The Snakepit" on North Lane in Lakewood.

While I make no excuses for crime and quality of life offenses in Lakewood and insist that we find a way to clean up the mess, I believe itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s important to keep our wits and swell of petty crime in a comparative perspective as we work together do so.

Kenneth Warren

Jeff Endress · Post by **Jeff Endress** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:39 pm

I live close to the highway so we sit in the backyard.. But you are more than welcome to come join us...

But...sitting in the backyard, you don't get to observe the happenings on the street, which is a part of the excercise.....

Jeff

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:45 pm

Jeff Endress wrote:
I live close to the highway so we sit in the backyard.. But you are more than welcome to come join us...
But...sitting in the backyard, you don't get to observe the happenings on the street, which is a part of the excercise.....

Jeff

Hey! things happen in the backyard...

Mark Crnolatas · Post by **Mark Crnolatas** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:58 pm

Jim,

While the SUV's may or may not have been a drug deal, I think it might have been prudent to call LPD. If your gut feels like something just "isn't right", maybe make the call to LPD, give them the plates, description and location, and let THEM determine whats up.

It sounds as if it was one of those "ya neverrrrrrrr knooow" type things.

FWIW

Mark Allan Crnolatas

Jim O'Bryan · Post by **Jim O'Bryan** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:08 am

Mark Crnolatas wrote:Jim,

While the SUV's may or may not have been a drug deal, I think it might have been prudent to call LPD. If your gut feels like something just "isn't right", maybe make the call to LPD, give them the plates, description and location, and let THEM determine whats up.

It sounds as if it was one of those "ya neverrrrrrrr knooow" type things.

FWIW

Mark Allan Crnolatas

Mark

"Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar"

In the end it seemed like some friendly stoop sitting to us.

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Ryan Salo · Post by **Ryan Salo** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:10 am

Has anyone heard any detailed information about the recent failure of the John Doe law?

The way I understand it is that if I report unusual behavior and it turns out to not be illegal activity I could get sued by the people I reported. I guess this is happening with some people on that flight where a group of muslims was kicked off for odd behavior.

Does this apply to everyday criminal activity? Can I get sued for calling the cops???

It sure seems that may be possible.

Jim O'Bryan · Post by **Jim O'Bryan** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:08 am

Still quiet!

Chris Trapp and I hit the streets for a quick hour or two. I posted some of the photos on a new blog i started called. "Tuesday Night(s)"

http://lakewoodobserver.com/photoblogs

The good news, all quiet.

10 p.m. boarding in the land of the midnight sun. Harrison Elementary School, Historic Birdtown, Lakewood Ohio.

"You really should have been here yesterday." Bruce Brown, Endless Summer.

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Bryan Schwegler · Post by **Bryan Schwegler** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:17 am

Ryan Salo wrote:Has anyone heard any detailed information about the recent failure of the John Doe law?

The way I understand it is that if I report unusual behavior and it turns out to not be illegal activity I could get sued by the people I reported. I guess this is happening with some people on that flight where a group of muslims was kicked off for odd behavior.

Does this apply to everyday criminal activity? Can I get sued for calling the cops???

It sure seems that may be possible.

The John Doe law protects you as long as a "reasonable" person would have suspected a possible crime. In the plane incident the people are claiming they only called because they were Arab and no other reason.

However, from the NPR story I heard about it, there was more involved and most legal expects expect the case to be dismissed because of the John Doe law. It certainly hasn't failed yet, and Congress is actually looking at strengthening it further in favor of the person reporting alleged crimes.

Ryan Salo · Post by **Ryan Salo** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:55 am

Thanks for the info Bryan

Donald Farris · Post by **Donald Farris** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:37 am

Hi,
Monday night around midnight I was out for a walk. It was a beautiful night. Stars shining bright and all was quiet. Except for the bars of the West End. I was surprised to realize the noise I was hearing in the distance was coming from over there. At night the sound carries. I wish they would work harder at constructing sound barriers at their sites.

Tuesday Night, all quiet.

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