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Jim O'Bryan
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Post by Jim O'Bryan »

Dee Martinez wrote: In any case I think the Observer does a good job in keeping its ear to the ground I just take every word here (and elshwere) with that proverbial grain of salt,

Healthy opinion.

Though I do take so exception. Jeff was doing an article of Phil Distasio and the media. We never finished it as we decided not to give him anymore time in the spotlight. The shocking thing we found was NO ONE with the exception of the Free Times got the story straight and Michael Gill of the FreeTimes used many Observers in his final report.

The "media" really dropped the ball on this.

Since then the media and the Observer have crossed paths many times and I am always amazed at how often they get it completely wrong, while we work for the truth.

Recently we saw the bias of reporting in the Plain Dealer and the Sun Papers. After the PD got a story completely wrong they used their pride and prejudice to not cover the opening of the library.

No one is immune, especially the Observer, but with the LO we let you know up front.

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Post by David Scott »

Again I come back to my original statement, which is my opinion so I don't see how Mr O'Bryan says I don't have the correct facts - again he just belittles people who don't agree with him.

Three or four guys getting their jollies off by taking photos and seeing who can post the most "dramatic" one is not journalism. This would never happen at a legitimate news source. It is intrusive and impolite. Again, that is my opinion. I broadened my statement when people tried to defend the journalistic integrity of a community newspaper when anybody can write an article slanted to their point of view and it is published as fact. And again I was belittled in that some beleive that this is true journalism. It is not. It is letters to the editor published on pages 1-4. Any true journalistic endeavor would acknowledge the difference between a true researched impartial article, and an editorial.

I am done discussing this, you don't seem to understand my viewpoint and instead treat me as if I don't have a clue. Go back to your game.
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Post by David Lay »

David Scott wrote: Three or four guys getting their jollies off by taking photos and seeing who can post the most "dramatic" one is not journalism.
Would Getty Images picking up one of the photos qualify as 'journalism' to you? Just asking.
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Post by Kenneth Warren »

From day one, the founding premise of the LO project has involved growing a team of Lakewood volunteers dedicated to the production of a hyper-local publication in newsprint form and advancing civic dialogue in a real name on-line forum.

By its very nature a hyper-local publication will drip sentiment, symbolism and subjectivity more so than alienation, objectivity and skepticism, which customarily inform the traditional practice of journalism.

Production of a hyper-local publication hinges on wide-spread participant-observer engagement.

There is also a communal spirit to the LO project, one that allows some of us to profess against the grain of cynicism that human life in Lakewood makes a sacred settlement. Again, I fully realize there are irrational, mythological and symbolic dimensions to the space of interaction and publication that the LO advances, and that these zones diverge substantially from the traditional practice of journalism.

The qualitative and subjective contents any engaged citizen brings to the light and heat of the LO project are valued as richly or as cheaply as quantitative and objective claims spun through the standard professional lens.

The LO’s insistence on the subjective side of community life amplified in newsprint is a profoundly radical and disturbing stance. To be sure, it's objectionable to some.

From time to time, as these objections are stated, there is need, I believe, to explain the intention, the theory and the practice of the LO’s “post-professionalâ€Â￾ interactions with civic institutions, community, people, situations, territorial objects and symbols. We do so together for the purpose of knowing the city we inhabit together par excellence.

Out of the box there was a clear understanding that by increasing the production levels of sentiment, symbolism and subjectivity through civic journalism Lakewoodites could mount an eloquent or not-so-eloquent - depending on one’s view and expectations for news – sense of neighborhood belonging.

We believed a spirit of belonging to a good neighborhood whose stories form the core of civic journalism could help in the defense of the territory against outside forces and interests whose culture and financial values diverge from those held by insiders.

Thus the LO is a conceptual tool – human and symbolic – deployed by volunteers in defense of the city and the sacred settlement we inhabit together.

In terms of Urban Studies and Urban Practice the LO project, with its humanistic treatment of the subject matter and symbols of the city, would easily classify in the school termed “Symbolic Interactionist.â€Â￾ (See Jerome Krase - Self and Community in the City http://www.brooklynsoc.org/PLG/selfandc ... ch1-1.html)

Hence, the bias for culturally and historically positive narratives stems from the subjective arousal of citizens inspired to transform themselves while preserving and protecting neighborhoods, institutions and traditions in our city.

That we are doing so at an historical moment when decay from the Cleveland Necropolis is festering in our midst makes the LO project all the more compelling and significant.

And again, that means the LO project will perforce drip with all the sentiment, symbolism and subjectivity that such heightened interaction can possibly deliver. These drippings are not to everyone’s taste, of course. Nor should they be. And that is O.K.

However, there is nothing to stop someone from supplying objective, scientific, sophisticated reports. Just don’t expect anyone else to do the job, but yourself. That LO project is just that inclusive.

Smart people on the LO Deck read everything with a grain of salt, and most especially those ‘professional’ productions that confront the local scene while repressing in the name of objectivity those subjective and symbolic dimensions of estrangement from the ground of civic life to which we all belong.

Kenneth Warren
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