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Lightspeed Box(es)?!

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New installation of AT&T's Lightspeed boxes seem very different from the "box" that was presented. It seems like a little city of boxes, that are on corners and arraigned to block the view of on coming traffic.

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From Clifton these boxes hid 2 cars and one van.

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From Cook they block 6 cars and a van!

OK multiple this by 43 or more?

This is getting insane.


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Post by Jeff Endress »

Jim

Not worry. Once the graffiti is in place, along with the rust and disrepair, I'm sure that they will look just fine.

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Post by John Guscott »

Let's just hope none of them explode, like the one in Houston back in November! Kaboom!
Check it out here (along with pix): http://www.lightreading.com/document.as ... vl=news1_1

Also, there is a very interesting article over at Ars Technica entitled "Suburbs against the U(ni)verse: the battle over AT&T's fiber rollout" abt a Chicago suburb. Of particular interest is the section entitled "The big deal over big boxes". Check it out here: http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/u-verse.ars/1
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Lakewood can now boast the most densely populated 52B enclosures between New York and Chicago....
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Post by Shawn Juris »

I've noticed the boxes in other cities are tucked away out of view in parking lots of retail areas. If only we had that option...
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Shawn Juris wrote:I've noticed the boxes in other cities are tucked away out of view in parking lots of retail areas. If only we had that option...

Shawn

Mike Dever fought a hard and brave fight to get them all underground. In the end the said 4 could be underground. The reason to expensive. At the time many of us were outraged because we understood what AT&T would gain in income, and it mad no sense to say "costs too much." Now that we see them some of us our wondering how much do we lose in property values, safety, and loose in beautification.

It puts a little industry in at least 43 residential areas.


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Post by c. dawson »

I don't suppose AT&T would be amenable to letting Lakewood artists and art students paint the boxes to beautify them up a little bit? Like put some small murals on them, or just any sort of art, so that we get a little more of public art, and less of an eyesore?
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I'm sure that ATT would not give permission for decoration of their boxes....but permission aside, I can pretty well guarentee that some "local artist" will nevertheless seek them as an inviting palette!

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c. dawson wrote:I don't suppose AT&T would be amenable to letting Lakewood artists and art students paint the boxes to beautify them up a little bit? Like put some small murals on them, or just any sort of art, so that we get a little more of public art, and less of an eyesore?
You mean find a middle ground rather than just complaining about it?? Inconceivable!!
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Shawn Juris wrote:
c. dawson wrote:I don't suppose AT&T would be amenable to letting Lakewood artists and art students paint the boxes to beautify them up a little bit? Like put some small murals on them, or just any sort of art, so that we get a little more of public art, and less of an eyesore?
You mean find a middle ground rather than just complaining about it?? Inconceivable!!

Shawn

I missed you at all of the meetings that lead up to council selling the city short on this. Very, informed people gave very informed reasons for not moving ahead. My opinion was we had a contract with COX that was voided and nullified costing us up to $500,000 a year.

Councilman Mike Dever wanted them underground, yet council went ahead, and completely missed the boat on this one. I thought that was a middle ground. Another middle ground would have been asking AT&T to give us what COX was giving us and the schools. Or another middle ground was AT&T paying ALL legal bills. In the end above ground, lied to about the size, a loss of $$$ and services, $14,000 in legal fees, and no promise of the so far vaporware known as Lightspeed.

Again I missed you at all of the meetings. It would of been good having another voice standing with us begging for middle ground.

Is this one of the things I am supposed to jump on the bandwagon no matter what?

What did you think of the two contracts?

Just curious.
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Post by stephen davis »

It looks like SOMEBODY ELSE FINALLY NOTICED.

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Realtors are noticing as well...
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