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As luck would have it I discovered a Convenient Food Mart on Denison last week. It sells flask-shaped bottles of Wild Irish Rose and OTD for $1.39
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Re: luck
ryan costa wrote:As luck would have it I discovered a Convenient Food Mart on Denison last week. It sells flask-shaped bottles of Wild Irish Rose and OTD for $1.39
Ryan
Other holiday tips.
If you wear baggy pants or overalls, you can fit the quart size bottle just like a flask. Don't sit on it.
This is why I believe the "wine of the century" "well maybe just last century MD20/20 is shaped like a huge flask. Take it to parties and share a pull on the handy bottle. It is a real hand across the waters moment of warmth this holiday season. Mogen David I believe has a k on the bottle.
Read more here: http://www.bumwine.com/md2020.html
To stay on topic, I have often seen these wine bottles empty behind strip malls.
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If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
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Kenneth Warren wrote:Jim:
When did you begin reading?
Kenneth Warren
shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
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Jim O'Bryan
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"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
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dl meckes wrote:Picture books don't count?
I thought he meant wine labels!
Oh.
Now I do feel bad.
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Jim O'Bryan
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"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
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A road trip tonight to Liberty Books with Jim and Dan Slife. Given the west side location, it's an 8.75 on a scale of 10, with some deep academic and permaculture content on the magazine racks. I'll give the mag rack a 10. Books can't match the depth of the mag racks, but contain a few suprises in the philosophy section. The proximity of Liberty Books to the Wood and the suprisingly hip and smart contents should give the Westlake Shops a run.
I did not ask if special orders are taken, not that many people even bother with on-line.
It's a convenient quality shop, not a thick as Borders even today, with some distinction to its selections. Some selections pop out simply because the picks seemed both honed and serendipitous, not likely to be found in Barnes & Noble in Westlake. It's well worth supporting.
Kenneth Warren
I did not ask if special orders are taken, not that many people even bother with on-line.
It's a convenient quality shop, not a thick as Borders even today, with some distinction to its selections. Some selections pop out simply because the picks seemed both honed and serendipitous, not likely to be found in Barnes & Noble in Westlake. It's well worth supporting.
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On the LO Deck a great deal of effort and time is spent describing shopping and lifestyle choices, what might suit our personal tastes and our bodacious expectations for a visionary leadership that makes marvelous development happen.
Some turn their nose up at Aldi’s, others at the Dollar Tree.
Some believe a big box will reduce their real estate tax bite.
Some wish for the shimmering signs of upscale retail to send a signal about the accumulated wealth levels in the Wood?
We go on and on.
Yet I often wonder when Mr. O’Bryan and Mr. Juris exchange takes on retail how clear is our developing sense of the real political economy of the Wood.
Are we learning anything other than how differently we dream and desire?
How far from the free market would our dreams for the Wood land us?
Do our dreams and desires simply indicate that the Wood is not “good enough for now?â€Â
Are dreams and desires the points for arguments?
The desire for “the state of the art in middle-class amenities†is often cloaked in the high hopes of economic development for the city and reduced property taxes for homeowners.
It seems doubtful to me the free market will deliver “the state of the art in middle-class amenities†to the built environment of the Wood.
How much of a subsidy is required to obtain the “the state of the art in middle-class amenities,†shaking out the recalcitrant landlords and homeowners, assembling the requisite properties?
Do we truly understand our desires as shoppers and that the retail platforms to satisfy them are always moving, not easily located in the Wood?
The fact that Lakewood is called “the city of homes†is telling us that there is too little space to accommodate the dynamics of development in the register that speaks “state of the art in middle-class amenities.â€Â
Does this reality trouble our souls, causing us to dream feverishly of anchors and apples that will never drop here?
Do we know where we live in comparison to the sprawling geography of American Dreams?
Can find satisfaction within the limitations of the built environment?
Maybe not.
In “Modern life in Maricopa County,†Rob Horning captures a sense of the suburban life style in the desert that seems to reveal the driving forces of consumerism, retail chains and economic development that advance amenities and shopping experience not easily fitted to the built environment and in some cases the sensibilities of Wood.
Horning talks about antiquated traditions of NYC that pale against “the cutting edge suburban lifestyle†of Phoenix.
Lakewood, though not as old as NYC and certainly not as densely packed, does seem to possess some of the urban nuisances that run counter to “the state of the art in middle-class amenities†described neatly in the article.
That the Wood is denied “the state of the art in middle-class amenities,†the economic development gamble that comes from “manufacturing the cutting edge suburban lifestyle†seems to be a source of frustration for some people.
While the desire to consume along the “cutting edge†suburban trajectory is stifled, the rationale for imposing a retail platform to support this desire on the housing stock or built environment of the Wood is seen as generating more taxes and mitigating the sting of overhead.
Efforts to voice cautionary notes about an expansion plan for “state of the art in middle-class amenities†and retail shopping platforms generate aggravation.
Here’s Horning:
“….Phoenix is an ongoing project in manufacturing the cutting edge suburban lifestyle, in pursuing and distributing the state of the art in middle-class amenitiesâ€â€retail plazas with organic-food markets and parking lots with giant spacesâ€â€and New York City is an antiquated version of modern life, one that’s terminally threatened and holds on merely through the tenacity of tradition…... While everyday life in New York is a thicket of nuisances, dealing with crowds and lines and the ceaseless imperative to rush and put yourself first lest you never get what you’re trying to do done, the ease and convenience of the quotidian in Arizona is palpable, which to me seems a product of the redundancy of shopping centers. Also the expanse of open desert space (while it lasts) allows one to take scorched earth policy toward communitiesâ€â€when it ceases to be convenient, when it starts to feel encrusted with idiosyncratic necessities or complications, one can simply strike out for the latest development on the fringe and partake of the hottest enticementsâ€â€four-car garages, cathedral ceilings, etc. The driving forces of contemporary consumer capitalismâ€â€novelty, convenience, the desire to feel independent from the impact of other’s decisionsâ€â€seem to culminate in the dynamic system on display in Maricopa County. For me this plays out as a kind of vacation listlessness, some of which must be blamed on my lack of imagination. But since so much of the region seems devoted to convenient transportation and shopping, I feel like there is nothing to do but drive around and shop.
Sure, I could leave the valley altogether and go hiking or something but it seems easier to pivot from cable TV to shopping to dining to sleeping. Imagination itself is reconfigured as a nuisance; best to glide along without the trouble of it, finding fullfillment in the safe and predictable, in the pseudo-novelty of new franchises of chain stores and restaurants….
Phoenix suggests what all American cities would be like if they could instantaneously rebuild according to current consumer preferences. And perhaps the accessibility of the various successful retail strategies so many different chains at once accounts for my feeling of being intoxicated (if not incapacitated) by convenience. The corporate interests behind the chains induce us to accept values amenable to the corporations’ thriving because they offer us the least resistance and we as individuals are ultimately more flexible than corporations (which aren’t as flexible as market theory typically proposes). What we lose is any interest in local idiosyncracy, or the kind of complication that arises from tradition and history. Phoenix (appropriately named in this regard) allows us to believe that the community in which we live was invented to suit us personallyâ€â€it flatters our own vanity; the world, for meâ€â€because it so compellingly convinces us to reduce ourselves to the consumer desires it is optimized to service."
Source: http://www.popmatters.com/pm/blogs/marginalutility/
Kenneth Warren
Some turn their nose up at Aldi’s, others at the Dollar Tree.
Some believe a big box will reduce their real estate tax bite.
Some wish for the shimmering signs of upscale retail to send a signal about the accumulated wealth levels in the Wood?
We go on and on.
Yet I often wonder when Mr. O’Bryan and Mr. Juris exchange takes on retail how clear is our developing sense of the real political economy of the Wood.
Are we learning anything other than how differently we dream and desire?
How far from the free market would our dreams for the Wood land us?
Do our dreams and desires simply indicate that the Wood is not “good enough for now?â€Â
Are dreams and desires the points for arguments?
The desire for “the state of the art in middle-class amenities†is often cloaked in the high hopes of economic development for the city and reduced property taxes for homeowners.
It seems doubtful to me the free market will deliver “the state of the art in middle-class amenities†to the built environment of the Wood.
How much of a subsidy is required to obtain the “the state of the art in middle-class amenities,†shaking out the recalcitrant landlords and homeowners, assembling the requisite properties?
Do we truly understand our desires as shoppers and that the retail platforms to satisfy them are always moving, not easily located in the Wood?
The fact that Lakewood is called “the city of homes†is telling us that there is too little space to accommodate the dynamics of development in the register that speaks “state of the art in middle-class amenities.â€Â
Does this reality trouble our souls, causing us to dream feverishly of anchors and apples that will never drop here?
Do we know where we live in comparison to the sprawling geography of American Dreams?
Can find satisfaction within the limitations of the built environment?
Maybe not.
In “Modern life in Maricopa County,†Rob Horning captures a sense of the suburban life style in the desert that seems to reveal the driving forces of consumerism, retail chains and economic development that advance amenities and shopping experience not easily fitted to the built environment and in some cases the sensibilities of Wood.
Horning talks about antiquated traditions of NYC that pale against “the cutting edge suburban lifestyle†of Phoenix.
Lakewood, though not as old as NYC and certainly not as densely packed, does seem to possess some of the urban nuisances that run counter to “the state of the art in middle-class amenities†described neatly in the article.
That the Wood is denied “the state of the art in middle-class amenities,†the economic development gamble that comes from “manufacturing the cutting edge suburban lifestyle†seems to be a source of frustration for some people.
While the desire to consume along the “cutting edge†suburban trajectory is stifled, the rationale for imposing a retail platform to support this desire on the housing stock or built environment of the Wood is seen as generating more taxes and mitigating the sting of overhead.
Efforts to voice cautionary notes about an expansion plan for “state of the art in middle-class amenities†and retail shopping platforms generate aggravation.
Here’s Horning:
“….Phoenix is an ongoing project in manufacturing the cutting edge suburban lifestyle, in pursuing and distributing the state of the art in middle-class amenitiesâ€â€retail plazas with organic-food markets and parking lots with giant spacesâ€â€and New York City is an antiquated version of modern life, one that’s terminally threatened and holds on merely through the tenacity of tradition…... While everyday life in New York is a thicket of nuisances, dealing with crowds and lines and the ceaseless imperative to rush and put yourself first lest you never get what you’re trying to do done, the ease and convenience of the quotidian in Arizona is palpable, which to me seems a product of the redundancy of shopping centers. Also the expanse of open desert space (while it lasts) allows one to take scorched earth policy toward communitiesâ€â€when it ceases to be convenient, when it starts to feel encrusted with idiosyncratic necessities or complications, one can simply strike out for the latest development on the fringe and partake of the hottest enticementsâ€â€four-car garages, cathedral ceilings, etc. The driving forces of contemporary consumer capitalismâ€â€novelty, convenience, the desire to feel independent from the impact of other’s decisionsâ€â€seem to culminate in the dynamic system on display in Maricopa County. For me this plays out as a kind of vacation listlessness, some of which must be blamed on my lack of imagination. But since so much of the region seems devoted to convenient transportation and shopping, I feel like there is nothing to do but drive around and shop.
Sure, I could leave the valley altogether and go hiking or something but it seems easier to pivot from cable TV to shopping to dining to sleeping. Imagination itself is reconfigured as a nuisance; best to glide along without the trouble of it, finding fullfillment in the safe and predictable, in the pseudo-novelty of new franchises of chain stores and restaurants….
Phoenix suggests what all American cities would be like if they could instantaneously rebuild according to current consumer preferences. And perhaps the accessibility of the various successful retail strategies so many different chains at once accounts for my feeling of being intoxicated (if not incapacitated) by convenience. The corporate interests behind the chains induce us to accept values amenable to the corporations’ thriving because they offer us the least resistance and we as individuals are ultimately more flexible than corporations (which aren’t as flexible as market theory typically proposes). What we lose is any interest in local idiosyncracy, or the kind of complication that arises from tradition and history. Phoenix (appropriately named in this regard) allows us to believe that the community in which we live was invented to suit us personallyâ€â€it flatters our own vanity; the world, for meâ€â€because it so compellingly convinces us to reduce ourselves to the consumer desires it is optimized to service."
Source: http://www.popmatters.com/pm/blogs/marginalutility/
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Kenneth Warren wrote:On the LO Deck a great deal of effort and time is spent describing shopping and lifestyle choices, what might suit our personal tastes and our bodacious expectations for a visionary leadership that makes marvelous development happen.
Some turn their nose up at Aldi’s, others at the Dollar Tree.
Some believe a big box will reduce their real estate tax bite.
Some wish for the shimmering signs of upscale retail to send a signal about the accumulated wealth levels in the Wood?
We go on and on.
Yet I often wonder when Mr. O’Bryan and Mr. Juris exchange takes on retail how clear is our developing sense of the real political economy of the Wood.
Are we learning anything other than how differently we dream and desire?
How far from the free market would our dreams for the Wood land us?
Do our dreams and desires simply indicate that the Wood is not “good enough for now?â€Â
Are dreams and desires the points for arguments?
The desire for “the state of the art in middle-class amenities†is often cloaked in the high hopes of economic development for the city and reduced property taxes for homeowners.
It seems doubtful to me the free market will deliver “the state of the art in middle-class amenities†to the built environment of the Wood.
How much of a subsidy is required to obtain the “the state of the art in middle-class amenities,†shaking out the recalcitrant landlords and homeowners, assembling the requisite properties?
Do we truly understand our desires as shoppers and that the retail platforms to satisfy them are always moving, not easily located in the Wood?
The fact that Lakewood is called “the city of homes†is telling us that there is too little space to accommodate the dynamics of development in the register that speaks “state of the art in middle-class amenities.â€Â
Does this reality trouble our souls, causing us to dream feverishly of anchors and apples that will never drop here?
Do we know where we live in comparison to the sprawling geography of American Dreams?
Can find satisfaction within the limitations of the built environment?
Maybe not.
In “Modern life in Maricopa County,†Rob Horning captures a sense of the suburban life style in the desert that seems to reveal the driving forces of consumerism, retail chains and economic development that advance amenities and shopping experience not easily fitted to the built environment and in some cases the sensibilities of Wood.
Horning talks about antiquated traditions of NYC that pale against “the cutting edge suburban lifestyle†of Phoenix.
Lakewood, though not as old as NYC and certainly not as densely packed, does seem to possess some of the urban nuisances that run counter to “the state of the art in middle-class amenities†described neatly in the article.
That the Wood is denied “the state of the art in middle-class amenities,†the economic development gamble that comes from “manufacturing the cutting edge suburban lifestyle†seems to be a source of frustration for some people.
While the desire to consume along the “cutting edge†suburban trajectory is stifled, the rationale for imposing a retail platform to support this desire on the housing stock or built environment of the Wood is seen as generating more taxes and mitigating the sting of overhead.
Efforts to voice cautionary notes about an expansion plan for “state of the art in middle-class amenities†and retail shopping platforms generate aggravation.
Here’s Horning:
“….Phoenix is an ongoing project in manufacturing the cutting edge suburban lifestyle, in pursuing and distributing the state of the art in middle-class amenitiesâ€â€retail plazas with organic-food markets and parking lots with giant spacesâ€â€and New York City is an antiquated version of modern life, one that’s terminally threatened and holds on merely through the tenacity of tradition…... While everyday life in New York is a thicket of nuisances, dealing with crowds and lines and the ceaseless imperative to rush and put yourself first lest you never get what you’re trying to do done, the ease and convenience of the quotidian in Arizona is palpable, which to me seems a product of the redundancy of shopping centers. Also the expanse of open desert space (while it lasts) allows one to take scorched earth policy toward communitiesâ€â€when it ceases to be convenient, when it starts to feel encrusted with idiosyncratic necessities or complications, one can simply strike out for the latest development on the fringe and partake of the hottest enticementsâ€â€four-car garages, cathedral ceilings, etc. The driving forces of contemporary consumer capitalismâ€â€novelty, convenience, the desire to feel independent from the impact of other’s decisionsâ€â€seem to culminate in the dynamic system on display in Maricopa County. For me this plays out as a kind of vacation listlessness, some of which must be blamed on my lack of imagination. But since so much of the region seems devoted to convenient transportation and shopping, I feel like there is nothing to do but drive around and shop.
Sure, I could leave the valley altogether and go hiking or something but it seems easier to pivot from cable TV to shopping to dining to sleeping. Imagination itself is reconfigured as a nuisance; best to glide along without the trouble of it, finding fullfillment in the safe and predictable, in the pseudo-novelty of new franchises of chain stores and restaurants….
Phoenix suggests what all American cities would be like if they could instantaneously rebuild according to current consumer preferences. And perhaps the accessibility of the various successful retail strategies so many different chains at once accounts for my feeling of being intoxicated (if not incapacitated) by convenience. The corporate interests behind the chains induce us to accept values amenable to the corporations’ thriving because they offer us the least resistance and we as individuals are ultimately more flexible than corporations (which aren’t as flexible as market theory typically proposes). What we lose is any interest in local idiosyncracy, or the kind of complication that arises from tradition and history. Phoenix (appropriately named in this regard) allows us to believe that the community in which we live was invented to suit us personallyâ€â€it flatters our own vanity; the world, for meâ€â€because it so compellingly convinces us to reduce ourselves to the consumer desires it is optimized to service."
Source: http://www.popmatters.com/pm/blogs/marginalutility/
Kenneth Warren
Los Angeles was also hollowed out and rebuilt for the ultimate in (then) contemporary consumer preferences. It went on to create Gangsta Rap and Paris Hilton.
I wonder what shelf life of Phoenix will be.
nevermind the energy issues and lions share of government spending these places get.
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Jim O'Bryan
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Ken
You completely nail in this with terms like "dreams." The fact is the region is failing, and with it all the dreams of those that depend on retail to feel good.
In our recent anthropological trip to compare the dreams of westside shoppers I think we uncovered some amazing differences and realities not shared by many. The truth is laid bare, and as we look back we see the tide/wave has indeed swept past the city of Lakewood, and swept all the way to Toledo and beyond.
While many think it is better in Cleveland Heights, Shaker, Bay Village, etc. we know only a couple cities have been able to stay away from the rush to the bottom. Those cities like Solon, Independence had it very easy. Massive acreage with nothing on it, makes build up easy. Coupled with this land are major exits from more than one freeway either in the city or nearby. when it comes to cities, Lakewood and our sister city Cleveland Heights has seemed to slow maybe even possible stopped the bleeding. But the fact remains the USA is going third world and we are all going third world together.
Questions remain, is it our dreams or own need for new, cool, hot, different, etc. that are feeding the need for change? Even the Dalai Lama states "Affluent beings change for nothing more than the need to fill emptiness inside. Change keeps one mind off of the true self, and only creates the need for more change for change sake." It would be nice to see a real study on what Lakewood NEEDS what it can support and what makes most sense for marketing the city to residents and businesses.
Other truths discovered in the drill down will be left alone as most would find them too terrible or terrifying. Others have looked into the mirror of the future and found peace, while others cringe, freak, over react, then get on the meds. But the one thing we know, and I think we know why, is that Lakewood has managed to stay the same while most others fail. With small subtle changes, Lakewood is the same as it was for decades. This should be viewed as a win, in this day and age. But will we?
We have seen dream cities like Huron throw their future away for a long time when they traded their old downtown area for some magic beans. While it is nearly impossible to find thee flaw in the plan, the truth is no one ever thought of what was next, what the future holds. It was built on the Tech bubble for then, and now it is a ghost town with a hole in it's heart, that might never be filled again. an upscale community with land and land banks downtown, that is now desperately trying to manage their decline.
If Lakewood can come to grips with their true identity, embrace it, own it and build on it, we can really make some hay, while the others fumble. If we constantly chase the man with the magic beans others have proven, it is a chase that rarely ends, or rarely bears fruit.
Lakewood's Dollar Tree Store featuring wide clean aisles, and great deals.
The Rocky River Dollar Tree features cramped dirty aisles.
Another Rocky River store that sells itself as the Upscale Liquidator, "Tuesday Morning" with their style of upscale displays.
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You completely nail in this with terms like "dreams." The fact is the region is failing, and with it all the dreams of those that depend on retail to feel good.
In our recent anthropological trip to compare the dreams of westside shoppers I think we uncovered some amazing differences and realities not shared by many. The truth is laid bare, and as we look back we see the tide/wave has indeed swept past the city of Lakewood, and swept all the way to Toledo and beyond.
While many think it is better in Cleveland Heights, Shaker, Bay Village, etc. we know only a couple cities have been able to stay away from the rush to the bottom. Those cities like Solon, Independence had it very easy. Massive acreage with nothing on it, makes build up easy. Coupled with this land are major exits from more than one freeway either in the city or nearby. when it comes to cities, Lakewood and our sister city Cleveland Heights has seemed to slow maybe even possible stopped the bleeding. But the fact remains the USA is going third world and we are all going third world together.
Questions remain, is it our dreams or own need for new, cool, hot, different, etc. that are feeding the need for change? Even the Dalai Lama states "Affluent beings change for nothing more than the need to fill emptiness inside. Change keeps one mind off of the true self, and only creates the need for more change for change sake." It would be nice to see a real study on what Lakewood NEEDS what it can support and what makes most sense for marketing the city to residents and businesses.
Other truths discovered in the drill down will be left alone as most would find them too terrible or terrifying. Others have looked into the mirror of the future and found peace, while others cringe, freak, over react, then get on the meds. But the one thing we know, and I think we know why, is that Lakewood has managed to stay the same while most others fail. With small subtle changes, Lakewood is the same as it was for decades. This should be viewed as a win, in this day and age. But will we?
We have seen dream cities like Huron throw their future away for a long time when they traded their old downtown area for some magic beans. While it is nearly impossible to find thee flaw in the plan, the truth is no one ever thought of what was next, what the future holds. It was built on the Tech bubble for then, and now it is a ghost town with a hole in it's heart, that might never be filled again. an upscale community with land and land banks downtown, that is now desperately trying to manage their decline.
If Lakewood can come to grips with their true identity, embrace it, own it and build on it, we can really make some hay, while the others fumble. If we constantly chase the man with the magic beans others have proven, it is a chase that rarely ends, or rarely bears fruit.
Lakewood's Dollar Tree Store featuring wide clean aisles, and great deals.
The Rocky River Dollar Tree features cramped dirty aisles.
Another Rocky River store that sells itself as the Upscale Liquidator, "Tuesday Morning" with their style of upscale displays.
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Jim O'Bryan
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
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Tom Bullock
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Nicely posed questions, Ken.
Point nicely made in pictures, Jim.
Yes, Lakewood can't be all things to all people. Many "state of the art middle class amenities" will be beyond Lakewood's space, funding, and coordination limits (for now); and many residents won't want to choose what Lakewood has to offer.
But enough do that Lakewood can be a thriving community. And we can make enough improvements within Lakewood's limits that we can attract even more people.
Part of Lakewood's strategic plan should be to attain 60,000 in population within 5-10 years, 65,000 in 10-15 years, and so on.
Point nicely made in pictures, Jim.
Yes, Lakewood can't be all things to all people. Many "state of the art middle class amenities" will be beyond Lakewood's space, funding, and coordination limits (for now); and many residents won't want to choose what Lakewood has to offer.
But enough do that Lakewood can be a thriving community. And we can make enough improvements within Lakewood's limits that we can attract even more people.
Part of Lakewood's strategic plan should be to attain 60,000 in population within 5-10 years, 65,000 in 10-15 years, and so on.
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Tom Powell-Bullock wrote:Part of Lakewood's strategic plan should be to attain 60,000 in population within 5-10 years, 65,000 in 10-15 years, and so on.
Tom
BINGO! What many forget is that Lakewood was healthiest when we had 60,000 plus people. 10,000 more people would do wonders for EVERY business in town, from La Pita Express to Three Birds, from Dollar Tree to Geiger's. To thin the herd more for parking lots and magic beans in insane.
Shawn
I have not asked Chaz Geiger if he is thinking of expanding, but I do believe they actually scaled back. They had Gordo's Skate Shop and that is now a sewing center. Meanwhile Marc's and Dollar Tree are screaming for more space. Both think they could double in size.
So another part of the reality check. Do you want to keep taxes in line with ultra successful companies, or do you want the window dressing without the sales of a Coach Bag store? Do we care more about quality of life, or the quality of the conversation outside the wood?
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Jim O'Bryan
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama