Two Cleveland Neighborhoods Makes the List - Twice

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Two Cleveland Neighborhoods Makes the List - Twice

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25 Most Dangerous Neighborhoods in the country - Scoville and Chestnut Pl. - between E40th and Quincy.

http://www.walletpop.com/blog/2010/10/0 ... oods-2010/
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sharon kinsella wrote:25 Most Dangerous Neighborhoods in the country - Scoville and Chestnut Pl. - between E40th and Quincy.

http://www.walletpop.com/blog/2010/10/0 ... oods-2010/


While not really Lakewood...

Damn!

Working on something down there. I am in the area all the time with my group or by myself. Dan and I have driven and walked those neighborhoods until 2am or later.

Hmmmmmmm.


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I used to over there also Jimmy. Wonder if this is another one of those FBI statistics that they assume covers everything.
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that is on the east side.

the CMHA has to ship the worst clients over to the east side.

it is a qualitative judgement, not a bureaucratic methodology.

so....it will never get done to any degree.
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Re: Two Cleveland Neighborhoods Makes the List - Twice

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This report is a really strange one. These two "neighborhoods" are more like blocks. I understand that things can change within very small areas of space, but given the size of these spots it's likely that 99% of people who live and work in the Cleveland area have never been to either of them.
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I think you would have to be pretty parochial to have never been in those neighborhoods.

The authors of the study said they had used neighborhoods, rather than larger areas, as they found very different results in neighborhoods that would not be reflected in larger areas. But as with any rankings, the results depend very much on what categories the authors choose to use, how precisely they are defined, and how relevant they are. For example, a school that concentrated on vocational training and had very good results in improving student performance might be ranked very low on a best schools list that gave weight to honors classes and college admissions, but might be the best school for a specific student.

I was mildly curious as to how they defined victim of a crime. In inner city neighborhoods there may be frequent crimes committed by residents against residents, but little crime commited against people who just drive through the neighborhood (down E. 55, for example, so the neighborhood is not dangerous to non residents. And of course there is the matter of what they consider a crime; a minor assualt is a far different thing than a murder.
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79th and Scoville.

Neighborhood Character
89% - More hip & trendy than 89%of U.S. neighborhoods. More walkable than 70%.
People have personalities, and so do neighborhoods. A neighborhood’s character describes its personality and the feeling one gets when experiencing the neighborhood as a true resident. Character descriptors are listed in order of importance, from most to least, just like the ingredients are listed on a box of cereal. The combination of descriptors listed, and their order, provides unique insights about a neighborhood, before you buy or rent.

Really?!

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