The Observation Deck

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/01/14/ ... otiations/

I applaud the Unions for negotiating on behalf of their members (that is there job). So much for change, the Constitution has been put in the shredder..

Here's the deal: Unions keep their cadillac health insurance to 2018 and Dems continue to get Union $upport while the rest of America gets the shaft.

Side deals everywhere you turn. AARP, doctors, Pharma, Louisiana, Nebraska, etc.

If it has to be "sold" so hard, then why are we allowing this to happen?

This is not health care reform, it's how to screw the middle class even further!

Charlie Page wrote:Here's the deal: Unions keep their cadillac health insurance to 2018 and Dems continue to get Union $upport while the rest of America gets the shaft.

Side deals everywhere you turn. AARP, doctors, Pharma, Louisiana, Nebraska, etc.

If it has to be "sold" so hard, then why are we allowing this to happen?

This is not health care reform, it's how to screw the middle class even further!

Change we can believe in

You know what the average American needs? We need to form a special interest group or a lobby group or something like that.

[sarcasm]We need someone in Washington so we can have some representation once in a while.



Wait a second...
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Stephen Eisel wrote:Change we can believe in

Change is all that I'll have left in my pocket after the Obama presidency

Cap and Trade, Health Care "Reform", new tax on banks (who doesn't think the banks will turn around and pass on to you and me?) and on and on....is there anything that Obama and the dems are doing that doesn't involve raising taxes?

Charlie Page wrote:

Stephen Eisel wrote:Change we can believe in

Change is all that I'll have left in my pocket after the Obama presidency

Wow, went broke in one year!

Has nothing to do with the nightmare left behind.


I love this thread. Oh yeah, only the dems cater to special interest.

Roy is right, we need to hire some lobbyists for us.


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Jim O'Bryan wrote:

Charlie Page wrote:

Stephen Eisel wrote:Change we can believe in

Change is all that I'll have left in my pocket after the Obama presidency

Wow, went broke in one year!

Has nothing to do with the nightmare left behind.


I love this thread. Oh yeah, only the dems cater to special interest.

Roy is right, we need to hire some lobbyists for us.


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Good point Jim. Bush ran up a $1.85 Trillion deficit during his 8 years in office. Obama has not not quite matched that amount in his first year. He fell a bit short.. In his first year in office, Obama ran up a $1.75 Trillion deficit.

Stephen Eisel wrote:

Jim O'Bryan wrote:.

Good point Jim. Bush ran up a $1.85 Trillion deficit during his 8 years in office. Obama has not not quite matched that amount in his first year. He fell a bit short.. In his first year in office, Obama ran up a $1.75 Trillion deficit.

Oh that's right, the Eisel way.

Let one(always the R) off the hook?

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Jim O'Bryan wrote:

Stephen Eisel wrote:

Jim O'Bryan wrote:.

Good point Jim. Bush ran up a $1.85 Trillion deficit during his 8 years in office. Obama has not not quite matched that amount in his first year. He fell a bit short.. In his first year in office, Obama ran up a $1.75 Trillion deficit.

Oh that's right, the Eisel way.

Let one(always the R) off the hook?

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Hell no! Do not mistake my support for Bush's actions in Iraq as a blank check of support for the Bush admin.. Ron Paul was right...

Jim O'Bryan wrote:Wow, went broke in one year!

Not quite broke yet....but paying child care while 2 people work and get only 1 income might put us in the poor house. (I’ll add the 1 income isn’t what is used to be either)

Jim O'Bryan wrote:Has nothing to do with the nightmare left behind.

Throwing gas on a fire and then blaming the person before you isn't working anymore. Maybe you should review the who ruined the economy thread again.

Jim O'Bryan wrote:I love this thread. Oh yeah, only the dems cater to special interest.

Never said that only dems cater. Open your eyes Jim. Pull your head out of the sand. See what is going on. Union deal after union deal. Sickening.

Jim O'Bryan wrote:Roy is right, we need to hire some lobbyists for us..

He is right but I can’t afford one. Remember, 2 working + 1 income + child care = broke.

Jim O'Bryan wrote:Roy is right, we need to hire some lobbyists for us..

He is right but I can’t afford one. Remember, 2 working + 1 income + child care = broke.[/quote]
I think if even a small portion, maybe 10% of normal Americans, pool some extra money together we can still afford a fine lobbyist group. After all, don't most lobbyists just represent those kind of groups? The squeaky wheel gets the grease, right?

Roy Pitchford wrote:

Jim O'Bryan wrote:Roy is right, we need to hire some lobbyists for us..

I think if even a small portion, maybe 10% of normal Americans, pool some extra money together we can still afford a fine lobbyist group. After all, don't most lobbyists just represent those kind of groups? The squeaky wheel gets the grease, right?

It seems the only group without a lobbyist are the straight, white, Christian males.

The squeaky wheel used to get the grease. Now the wheel with the most grea$e to hand out gets the attention.

Charlie Page wrote:The squeaky wheel used to get the grease. Now the wheel with the most grea$e to hand out gets the attention.

I am officially outraged.

"K" street.

Done


peace



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Jim O'Bryan wrote:

Charlie Page wrote:The squeaky wheel used to get the grease. Now the wheel with the most grea$e to hand out gets the attention.

I am officially outraged.

"K" street.

Done


peace



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I am outraged that you are outraged...



how words come back to haunt you....

Stephen Eisel wrote:"K" street.

I am outraged that you are outraged...



how words come back to haunt you....[/quote]

Watched this twice, still do not understand how the Charlie request of needing a lobbyist
for straight white christian males, has anything to do with Obama's failures and BS.

Stephen, you really have to come to grips with this. THEY are not serving us.

But how would I expect a person like you to understand that. As you have pointed
out, after 8 years of defending GWB, you feel the genocide of 200,000 Iraqis for
nothing to be GWB's crowning moment of glory.

But now that I think, maybe it does make sense. You are outraged that I think the
American people need a lobbyist, but you feel it should be for white, christian, straight, males.

Damn man, you have to learn where the real borders are drawn.

Still officially outraged.

With this thread I have to quote Frank Zappa's Trouble Coming Every Day.
Hey, you know something people?
I'm not black
But there's a whole lots a times
I wish I could say I'm not white



Blow your harmonica son.

All I am not taking or trying to suggest these are racists comment.
But I fail to see where any of us are winning. Now, the past 8 years, the 8years
before that, the 12 years before that and on and on and on.

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