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Jim DeVito wrote:"We haven't been screwing up the climate..." Come on Roy you do not believe this do you? Are you a climate change birther?
Rule 5: "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon." There is no defense. It's irrational. It's infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.
Rule 12: "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it." Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.
-- Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals
Heather Ramsey wrote:http://climateprogress.org/2008/08/21/debunking-the-myth-global-warming-stopped-in-1998/
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Roy Pitchford wrote:I've had complaints that my sources are "right-wing" in the past. Well, if its good for the goose, I call shenanigans.
Heather Ramsey wrote:The thing is, I'm not a scientist and never will be, but the majority of science I have looked at tells me that we are messing with the planet in serious ways, including the oil subject that was broached above, and I'd like us to take care of it whether we're affecting the climate or not. Pollution is bad whether it's changing the temperature or just giving us lung cancer and allergies. I understand being skeptical of the science since the minority isn't always wrong, but I do NOT understand the people out there who think that everyone who would like to take care of the earth is some sort of nut working for some sort of conspiracy. What is the deal??
Heather Ramsey wrote:Roy Pitchford wrote:I've had complaints that my sources are "right-wing" in the past. Well, if its good for the goose, I call shenanigans.
Not from me. It links to data from NASA. Is NASA also biased? If so, I'm not sure what sort of source would be believable to you.
January, February, and March would be good months to stay in your cabin. The Earth’s environment was chaotic. Incessant wind and rain would erode away barren mountains faster than a plastic surgeon can erode away Michael Jackson’s nose.
Life would spring forth on April Fools Day! Sure, these single-celled organisms would be stuck in the warm coastal waters and by the thermal vents, but we’ll take what we can get. Before the end of the month multi-cellular life would pop up.
In early May Trilobites (hard shelled creatures) would start feeding on all the multi-cellular life. By the end of the month, small vertebrates would start feeding on the Trilobites. All you can eat restaurants were invented.It was nice to know that I wasn't completely lost.
Where would the Continental Divide be in June? It wouldn’t be a thrusting mass of mountains that I am walking on today. Quite the opposite! It would be a broad channel of water. You could ride your kayak down the channel! In fact, if you flew over North America in June, you’d see that 60 percent of the land is underwater. Would you see forests of trees on the land? Nope, you wouldn’t even see moss clinging to the ubiquitous rocks. Zero plant life. However, it wouldn’t be a static boring rock-filled landscape. It would be constantly eroding, pummeled by endless torrential rains that make the south-east Asian monsoons seem like a drizzle.
Half the year would go by and still no life on the land.
Finally, around the middle of July, very slowly, the first plants would gain a precarious foothold on land. For every plant that latches on the land, many will get washed away by the endless rain. The struggle of the plants to get established lasts for weeks, but they finally settle down. Vegetarians aren’t far behind.
In August the seas are crowded with fish. A few claustrophobic ones develop crude lungs, call themselves amphibians, and get timeshares on the land.Go over that pass!
In early September insects show up. Since CDT hikers hadn’t been invented yet, the mosquito started bugging the first reptiles. By the end of the month, dinosaurs start to stomp around and will continue stomping for 150 million years.
In October the Appalachian mountain range starts to rise and will be far higher than any other mountain range in the USA today. You wouldn’t find cozy shelters every 10 miles on the Appalachian Trail. But you might see packs of dinosaurs chasing the pathetic looking mammals that just start to appear. The dinosaurs thought these mammals were great snacks.
The Continental Divide would be impossible to recognize in early November. Instead of the Rocky Mountains stretching out as far as the eye can see, you’d see a massive sea that stretched from the Arctic to the Gulf of Mexico ! The most memorable event of this month is when an asteroid the size of Manhattan Island strikes the Yucatan with a force of 100 million megatons. The impact would release a heat pulse that would set off fires across the planet. The result: a planetary dinosaur barbeque. Their “two month” reign comes to an abrupt end. In the last days of November the Rocky Mountains would finally start to rise and tower over the surrounding land. The CDT wasn’t well marked then either.
In December you’d see the rapid proliferation of mammals. On Christmas Day the Colorado River would start its tedious process of slicing the Grand Canyon.It's often easier to get up high than to traverse across these slopes.
The sun would rise on December 31 and still no sign of humans. Finally, around noon, somewhere in east Africa, the first clumsy hominids would stand up. During the last hours of the year, you’d see massive sheets of ice, as tall as mountains, cover America and Euroasia. Like an accordion, you’d see the ice sheets (glaciers) come and go four times in just a few hours. It would look like a global warming yo-yo gone wild.
With one hour to go before the year ends, the Neanderthal shows up to the primate party. At 23:30 the French start showing off their artistic talent: Cro-Magnon man draws cool paintings in some caves. At 23:45 homo sapiens figure out how to make weapons of mass destruction: shap knives and spears.
Around 23:55 civilization begins. Prostitution shortly follows. Egyptians, Babylonians, Greeks, and Romans each spend a minute building touristy buildings. At 23:58 and 43 seconds, Jesus tells everyone to behave. We kill him a nanosecond later.
With just 20 seconds to go before the year draws to a close, Columbus bumps into America. Dick Clark is born and starts making a living counting down the seconds to the New Year. “Just 7 seconds to go!” announces Dick, and Americans sign the Declaration of Independence. In the final 7 seconds we finally arrive at the crown jewel of billion of years of evolution: Paris Hilton.
ryan costa wrote:Humankind has worked some quick mischief on the environment in the past: The Great Dustbowl is a recent example. It took less than 20 years of Model Ts and tractors to achieve the Great Dustbowl.
ryan costa wrote:if Americans were concerned about treaties ceding our sovereignty they would have marched on D.C. when NAFTA, WTO, and CAFTA treaties were signed.
Paul Schrimpf wrote:Humankind has worked some quick mischief on the environment in the past: The Great Dustbowl is a recent example. It took less than 20 years of Model Ts and tractors to achieve the Great Dustbowl.
To clarify, the Dust Bowl was a direct result of the combination of the removal of native prairie grass and a natural weather swing to severe drought. Farmers were fooled into plowing down millions of acres of deep rooted natural prairie grass to plant wheat due to an unusual period of well timed rain prior to the devastating drought through the 1930s. With nothing to hold the soil, it was swept up and moved everywhere ... dust storms were experienced all the way to the East Coast. It has never been fully restored despite all best efforts.
Roy Pitchford wrote:ryan costa wrote:Humankind has worked some quick mischief on the environment in the past: The Great Dustbowl is a recent example. It took less than 20 years of Model Ts and tractors to achieve the Great Dustbowl.
Coupled directly with a severe drought in a region of the country once called the Great American Desert.
Roy Pitchford wrote:ryan costa wrote:if Americans were concerned about treaties ceding our sovereignty they would have marched on D.C. when NAFTA, WTO, and CAFTA treaties were signed.
What's your point? You think that its not going to be as bad as it sounds or do you think the American people just don't care about losing their sovereignty?
Heather Ramsey wrote:Not from me. It links to data from NASA. Is NASA also biased? If so, I'm not sure what sort of source would be believable to you.
