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Obama won Peace Prize

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:53 pm
by Shelley Hurd
America rebuilding her reputation.

Encouraging to see goodness being rewarded and recognized as worthy for praise again in the world

Re: Obama won Peace Prize

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:49 pm
by Roy Pitchford
Indeed, the world loves us again! Let see what they actually say:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/09/international-media-reactions-obama-peace-prize/

UK:

Financial Times: What Did Obama Do to Win the Nobel Peace Prize?

I am a genuine admirer of Obama. And I am very pleased that George W Bush is no longer president. But I doubt that I am alone in wondering whether this award is slightly premature. It is hard to point to a single place where Obama's efforts have actually brought about peace - Gaza, Iran, Sri Lanka? The peace prize committee say that he is being rewarded for his "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy." But while it is OK to give school children prizes for "effort" - my kids get them all the time - I think international statesmen should probably be held to a higher standard.

London Times: Absurd Decision on Obama Makes a Mockery of the Nobel Peace Prize

Rarely has an award had such an obvious political and partisan intent. It was clearly seen by the Norwegian Nobel committee as a way of expressing European gratitude for an end to the Bush Administration, approval for the election of America's first black president and hope that Washington will honour its promise to re-engage with the world.

Instead, the prize risks looking preposterous in its claims, patronising in its intentions and demeaning in its attempt to build up a man who has barely begun his period in office, let alone achieved any tangible outcome for peace.

The Guardian: Barack Obama's Nobel Prize: Why Now?

Indeed, the reasoning behind the awarding of the prize to previous American presidents has been easier to discern. Teddy Roosevelt opened the court of arbitration in the Hague and helped mediate a peace treaty between Russia and Japan; Woodrow Wilson was the founder of the League of Nations. Jimmy Carter won his prize for his "untiring efforts to find peaceful solutions to international conflicts".

Which is what makes the awarding of this year's prize to a president who has been in office for a mere nine months an odd departure. It is as if the prize committee had been persuaded to give the award on the future delivery of promises.

The Guardian: Should Obama Accept the Nobel Peace Prize

If I were in the boiler room over there, I would begin by suggesting to the president that he demur altogether. That he tell the committee that while he's deeply touched, he does not in fact feel that he has yet done the work to earn this award. He should then recommend to the committee that it give the prize to Hu Jia, the Chinese dissident who was considered a frontrunner, or someone else whose life's cause could actually benefit from winning the prize (and the hefty cash award that comes with it, which Obama also doesn't need).

Telegraph: Obama's Won the Nobel Peace Prize -- WTF?!

Barack Obama has won the Nobel Peace prize and I'm still reeling at the shock. Most of us are, I should think. Here are my theories as to how it might have come about:

1. Unlike in most of the rest of the world Obama Kool Aid (TM) remains Oslo's most popular beverage.

2. The Norwegian prize committee's sense of irony is growing ever more sophisticated, as it hinted when it gave the prize in 2002 to comedy ex-president Jimmy Carter, and hinted more strongly when it gave the prize in 2007 to climate-fear-promoting comedy failed-president Al Gore.

3. The other candidates on the shortlist were Robert Mugabe; Osama Bin Laden; Ahmed Jibril; and the late Pol Pot.

Australia:

Sydney Morning Herald: They Think He Can: Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize

YES, surprisingly, he could. Barack Obama, is the shock choice for the Nobel Peace Prize, less than a year after his election as U.S. President.

Italy:

Il Giornale: A Preposterous Choice

Let me be clear: the discourse on Islam in Cairo was beautiful, tall, and it opens up new horizons, but did not lead to anything. And on the other matter, as pointed out repeatedly in this blog, Obama has been evasive or inconclusive, starting with Iran and Afghanistan. Nor can he boast the merits of rapprochement with North Korea, which was brought about by Bill Clinton. He kept only one real promise: the gradual withdrawal from Iraq. Enough to deserve the Nobel Prize?

Germany:

Der Spiegel: Obama's Nobel Prize Is More of a Burden Than an Honor

The Nobel Peace Prize has come too early for Barack Obama. The US president cannot point to any real diplomatic successes to date and there are few prospects of any to come.

Bild: "Wow!" Barack Obama Receives Nobel Peace Prize

It is the most important award in the world. And she goes to U.S. President Barack Obama (48) - he gets this year's Nobel Peace Prize. What a sensation!

Poland:

Krakow Post: "Too Fast" for Obama Nobel, Says Walesa

The former president, himself a Peace Prize winner in 1983, told the press in Warsaw "Who, Obama? So fast? Too fast - he hasn't had the time to do anything yet." This sentiment was reflected by current Prime Minister Donald Tusk: "Shock - absolutely. It's interesting, but shocking."

Canada:

The Globe and Mail: Obama's Premature Prize

The simple explanation for the Committee's decision to cite Mr. Obama at this stage of his presidency is that he is not George W. Bush.

The more generous interpretation is that the decision is hortatory; that is, it is designed to encourage the President to follow a path in U.S. foreign policy that is preferred by Committee members.

Toronto Star: Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize

Once you catch your breath - Obama has been on the world stage for less than a year “ the decision makes perfect sense. More than other Nobel categories, the Nobel for peace goes to a cause, and only ostensibly to an individual or group.

With Lester Pearson, the award was for diplomatic resolutions of conflict. With Martin Luther King, it was for non-violent pursuit of justice. Two relatively obscure Irish women were honoured for spearheading a non-violent resolution to the Troubles. Jimmy Carter, in 1992, was honoured for diplomatic outside interventions in regions of escalating or potential violence.

National Post: Shiny Prize Went to the Nice Man Who Gave the Best Speech

Obama is being given his award for mere words -- for striking fashionable poses in favour of multilateralism, for making a nice speech in Cairo, for offering "hope." Months after Americans learned to dismiss Obama's 2008 presidential campaign slogans as the meaningless bromides they were, Scandinavians are still drinking his Kool-aid.

China:

China Daily: Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize to Mixed Reviews

US President Barack Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize on Friday for giving the world "hope for a better future" and striving for nuclear disarmament, in a surprise award that drew criticism as well as praise.

Middle East:

Al-Jazeera: Doubts Voiced Over Obama Peace Win

A surprised world has greeted the award of the Nobel Peace Prize to Barack Obama, the US president, with a mixture of praise and skepticism.

In Afghanistan, the Taliban mocked the award, saying it was absurd to give it to Obama when he had ordered 21,000 extra troops to Afghanistan this year.

"The Nobel prize for peace? Obama should have won the 'Nobel prize for escalating violence and killing civilians'," Zabihullah Mujahid, a Taliban spokesman, told the Reuters news agency.

Israel:

Jerusalem Post: Peres, Barak Congratulate Barack Obama

President Shimon Peres on Friday sent a letter of congratulations to US President Barack Obama for winning the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize for Peace, telling the American leader that under his leadership, peace became a "real and original agenda."

"Very few leaders if at all were able to change the mood of the entire world in such a short while with such profound impact. You provided the entire humanity with fresh hope, with intellectual determination, and a feeling that there is a Lord in heaven and believers on earth," Peres, himself a Nobel Peace Prize laureate, wrote to Obama.

Haaretz: Obama Administration Official: President "Humbled" by Award

While the decision won praise from statesmen like Nelson Mandela and Mikhail Gorbachev, both former Nobel laureates, it was also attacked in some quarters as hasty and undeserved.

The Palestinian Islamist movement Hamas, which controls the Gaza Strip and opposes a peace treaty with Israel, said the award was premature at best.

"Obama has a long way to go still and lots of work to do before he can deserve a reward," said Hamas official Sami Abu Zuhri. "Obama only made promises and did not contribute any substance to world peace. And he has not done anything to ensure justice for the sake of Arab and Muslim causes."

Pakistan:

The International News: Iranians Call Obama Nobel Award a Mistake

Iranians joined criticism of the surprise award of the Nobel Peace Prize to U.S. President Barack Obama on Friday.

One Tehran resident regarded the award as inappropriate, given U.S. policy in the Middle East.

"In my opinion, when a person cooperates with and supports the Israeli regime, he does not deserve to receive the Nobel Peace Prize. It is a mistake," said Massoud Savoji.

Another resident of the Iranian capital, Maryam Afrouz, praised the U.S. president as a man "who loves to have peace and calm prevail all over the whole world.

Dawn: Wartime President Wins Nobel Peace Prize

Obama's name had been mentioned in speculation before the award but many Nobel watchers believed it was too early to award the president.

The committee said it attached special importance to Obama's vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons.

Mexico:

El Universal: Compliments and Doubts from the World After Awarding of Nobel to Obama

The awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize to U.S. President Barack Obama was praised in many parts of the world, but in others there were stunned reactions, referring to Obama's lack of tangible achievements on the world scene.

Re: Obama won Peace Prize

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:17 pm
by ryan costa
It is good news.

The Cheney Regime set the bar so low any decent President wins.

Even if Obama is a zero, the Cheney-Limbaugh regime were negative 85s.

Some say Cheney urged Bush to order the bombing of Iran.

Cheney says Reagan proved deficits don't matter.

but the interest rates were already near Zero when it was time to bomb Iran.

The Reagan-Greenspan regime got to start out with high interest rates to command to lower.

Greenbacks and junk-bonds. the factories and farms were closing fast, but everyone on tv was getting rich.

The Germans and Japanese financed it: their economic goals were low-unemployment.

(somehow they ended up making better cars anyways)

China has financed the Iraq War so far. A few years ago the total costs were estimated at 2 trillion.

The leading Chickenhawks are "For the troops". If you criticize the neocons they say you are "against the troops".

So they fired Jay Garner and installed Paul Bremer.

Iraq was piss-poor before the invasion. and piss poor afterwards.

In the Battle against Islamic Jihadists staffed by Saudi college grads...

It seemed best to invade moderately secular Iraq.

Iran is much wealthier, larger, and more populated than Iraq. sharing a large land border with Pakistan and Turkey.

Nixon and Kissinger wanted to give Iran Nuclear power in the 1970s so Iran could export more oil.

Saddam Hussein was just a lightweight version of the Shah.

Iraq could have waited until after Afghanistan was finished. It wasn't going anywhere.

Late Middle-Age Chickenhawk Politicians and top-flight bureaucrats wanted the U.S. to fight on two fronts. So they could be like their parents in World War II. or something.

The topflight chickenhawks sat out Viet Nam with exemptions or national guard duty.

Back then National Guards main job was to show up when American teenagers were rioting or trashing town.

Today people join the national guard and reserves for money for college or something.

George W. Bush did not need money for college.

Today the national guard and reserves are sent to Iraq and Afghanistan.

Theodore Roosevelt was the first U.S. Acting President to be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. He negotiated a peace between two heavyweight nations of the time in full out war with each other. Russia and Japan.

It is hard to envision either Bush having the knowledge, reasoning ability, and speaking ability to do that in any era.

It is much easier to envision Obama having the knowledge, reasoning ability, and speaking ability to do that in any era.

Theodore Roosevelt was a Republican.

there are no more Republicans today.

The New Deal gave Southern Crackers enough money to become Neo-Conservatives.

The New Deal and Cold War Spending gave the South and West enough money to become Neo-Conservatives.

The absence of disease is the first benchmark for health.

It was popular for the Neocons to justify their initiative by stating America is now the sole global superpower.

It is good that the Loutish aging chickenhawks drunk on power no longer have their fingers on the trigger of the Global Superpower Apparatus.

This years Nobel Peace Prize goes to the majority of the voters of the United States of America.

Re: Obama won Peace Prize

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:39 pm
by Roy Pitchford
As much as I try the more I read from you, Mr. Costa, the less I'm able to make sense of. I do not intend it as any kind of slam or insult, I just do not understand.

Re: Obama won Peace Prize

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 7:22 am
by ryan costa
I forgot.....footnotes...

Re: Obama won Peace Prize

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:41 pm
by Roy Pitchford
In this case, its not footnotes and such.

Its a variety of things.

Relevancy:
The absence of disease is the first benchmark for health.


Coherence:
The Cheney Regime set the bar so low any decent President wins.

Even if Obama is a zero, the Cheney-Limbaugh regime were negative 85s.

Some say Cheney urged Bush to order the bombing of Iran.

Cheney says Reagan proved deficits don't matter.

but the interest rates were already near Zero when it was time to bomb Iran.

If you want to compare the Bush 8 years to Obama's 9 months, there are less cryptic ways to go about doing it.

Re: Obama won Peace Prize

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:35 am
by Dennis J Kampe
Apparently nosed out "our" District 10 Congressional "Representative" - denny do nothing k

Just think how many months he could preach in 2011/12 ( denny III ) with the $1+ million award !

Re: Obama won Peace Prize

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:48 am
by Justine Cooper
I actually get your posts Ryan and really appreciate them because they put humor in serious and ridiculous situations our country gets involved with, instead of just a one-sided blanket of anger and disdain for any who disagree.

On the other note as an Obama supporter, I think he needs to earn that award and any other and am waiting for him to do so. He didn't earn this but like you said after the greedy bullies in office....

Re: Obama won Peace Prize

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:54 pm
by sharon kinsella
Do any of you remember that he has attempted conversations with countries who are considered to be our enemies?

Nah.

Re: Obama won Peace Prize

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:26 am
by Justine Cooper
Yes but do you agree he should have won the Nobel Peace Prize? I want to see more and expect to with him, but want to see more before winning such a big prize.

Re: Obama won Peace Prize

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:28 am
by Roy Pitchford
http://randysright.wordpress.com/2009/10/11/meet-the-people-who-were-passed-over-for-obama-for-nobel-peace-prize/

Meet the People Who Were Passed Over for Obama


Sima Samar, women’s rights activist in Afghanistan: With dogged persistence and at great personal risk, she kept her schools and clinics open in Afghanistan even during the most repressive days of the Taliban regime, whose laws prohibited the education of girls past the age of eight. When the Taliban fell, Samar returned to Kabul and accepted the post of Minister for Women’s Affairs.

Ingrid Betancourt: French-Colombian ex-hostage held for six years.

Dr. Denis Mukwege: Doctor, founder and head of Panzi Hospital in Bukavu, Democratic Republic of Congo. He has dedicated his life to helping Congolese women and girls who are victims of gang rape and brutal sexual violence.

Handicap International and Cluster Munition Coalition: “These organizations are recognized for their consistently serious efforts to clean up cluster bombs, also known as land mines. Innocent civilians are regularly killed worldwide because the unseen bombs explode when stepped upon.”

“Hu Jia, a human rights activist and an outspoken critic of the Chinese government, who was sentenced last year to a three-and-a-half-year prison term for ‘inciting subversion of state power.’”

“Wei Jingsheng, who spent 17 years in Chinese prisons for urging reforms of China’s communist system. He now lives in the United States.”

Re: Obama won Peace Prize

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 11:01 am
by J Hrlec
Congrats President Obama