The Observation Deck

Change and hope or the old rope a dope?


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Hi,
WOW! What unity! All the Repub Reps in a meaningless (it was going to pass anyhow) show of support voted no on the atimulus package.

I remember not too long ago, while Ron Paul was running for President, his fellow Repubs made light of him for voting against bills and still he accepted approved projects for his district.

Well, here is their chance! They could vow not to take a penny of the stimulus package funds for their districts. They are against the package? Then they can refuse the funds.

See: http://216.87.173.33/media/2009/0901/com_tds_confirmation_roast_090129a.flv It's Steven Colbert on The Audacity of Nope.

Obama can return America to its traditional progressive income taxation policies. with a dash of traditional American Protectionism.

Traditionally, this has been better for employment, industrial growth, and individual upward mobility.

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Here's live to Colbert's video: http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/colbert-report-word-audacity-of-nope

Hi,
WOW! What unity! All the Repub Reps in a meaningless (it was going to pass anyhow) show of support voted no on the atimulus package.

If this bailout fails and leads us into a depression or a period of hyperinflation then the repubs can solely blame the dems.. The first bailout did not work. Why is this porkfull bailout going to be any different from the first one? On the other hand, it may just work. (snowball's chances in hell)

Steve, which bailout are you talking about, the second half of the tarp funds or the stimulus package?

I do think we need strings attached to any money we give. Maybe we need to structure it in such a way, that the money can only be used for lending. Right now what it was used for strengthen the balance sheet, to buy up foreign banks and to provide bonuses and perks for their executives.

The stimulus is a different matter and I think that too needs to be controlled carefully. Infrastructure projects with American labor and materials, clean energy with American labor and materials. Computerizing and making mobile health care infomration again wtih American labor.

I do agree with helping the states with unemployment insurance. The states could not have predicted taht they would be hit this hard. We also have a record of people, mostly the unemployed now, without health care. This would be a good time to implement his plan.

For those on the deck who might have missed this alternative view. I doubt it will change anyones mind here, just another way of looking at the problem. Some interesting revelations about the non-stimulus parts of the current bill. FWIW.


http://www.heritage.org/Research/Economy/hl1108.cfm


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Dustin James wrote:For those on the deck who might have missed this alternative view. I doubt it will change anyones mind here, just another way of looking at the problem. Some interesting revelations about the non-stimulus parts of the current bill. FWIW.


http://www.heritage.org/Research/Economy/hl1108.cfm

Borrowing money to build a needed road or bridge or port or school or park or sewer or sewage treatment plant or nuclear power plant or windmill makes sense. While we can all argue about an individual choice or an individual item the general idea of borrowing to build is sound.

Borrowing $6 trillion dollars to pass out on street corners is not the way to build an economy. If it were we wouldn't need the stimulus package. Just give every American a check for $1 million dollars and be done with it.

Bill Call wrote:

Dustin James wrote:For those on the deck who might have missed this alternative view. I doubt it will change anyones mind here, just another way of looking at the problem. Some interesting revelations about the non-stimulus parts of the current bill. FWIW.


http://www.heritage.org/Research/Economy/hl1108.cfm

Borrowing money to build a needed road or bridge or port or school or park or sewer or sewage treatment plant or nuclear power plant or windmill makes sense. While we can all argue about an individual choice or an individual item the general idea of borrowing to build is sound.

Borrowing $6 trillion dollars to pass out on street corners is not the way to build an economy. If it were we wouldn't need the stimulus package. Just give every American a check for $1 million dollars and be done with it.

Uh, so you agree with the article, right? Just checking the context here of your statement and wondering why the quotes above to your statement?

thanks

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Dustin James wrote:Uh, so you agree with the article, right? Just checking the context here of your statement and wondering why the quotes above to your statem

I do agree with the article.

The current stimulus package will do nothing to stimulate economic growth. The only think it will stimulate is government spending.