Mark Moran wrote:I have to confess Ive lost the thread of this conversation. The salon post is there for anyone to read, on my post or on salon.
Look, I dont know how anyone, right left or center can disagree: the choice of Palin for VP to a guy who is 72 with four cancers is a piece of degrading political theater. Oh, her family! Oh, her values! Oh, her child with down's syndrome! Oh, how normal and just-like-us she is! And look!--she drops her g's at the end of gerunds!
Good god! Wake up, for crissakes! This isnt about Palin--she's a cipher and she's been used as a symbol and a prop, and even if she acquits herself minimally well for the rest of the campaign she's probably going nowhere but back to Wasilla. Its about McCain, his judgement, and the descent of the Republican party to the lowest common demoninator. Why do we celebrate mediocrity in politics???
Mark
I think she either rolls over the bar, which as low as any I have seen, or they move to replace her, by some means.
As for the rest of this thread, and participants.
I believe what Jennifer, Ryan(through PMs) and others are speaking of is, the heat that I and others bring to the disbelief of support(I had found myself using blind support) for GWB, and now the new ever changing CHANGE machine called John McCain.
While on one hand I am always sorry to paint with such a broad brush such as Rs. How else does one express themselves, when 90% of America, including the Administration point to how faux the reason for war was, and the lies are unearthed, and a ever growing small percentage think the war was just and winnable?
Examples, The economy(sound when it was obviously not), unemployment(only 4.6%, no that is the amount collecting unemployment with no connection to the real numbers), and on and on.
While I am sorry for bringing the heat in forms of disbelief, I cannot help but be totally disillusioned for where this country has gone in 8 short years. Or crazed when someone tells me it is better
I am thinking of sponsoring a movie night for "The Trials Of Henry Kissinger" the documentary based on the Christopher Hitchins book of the same name. It is a very stark, real look at the Vietnam war, and the players, and just how perverted the entire system is, and how one person can take all of us down the wrong road. The movie speaks with all the players, and you can judge from their words and actions, without the spin.
I cannot believe that we have already forgotten, the Peublo Incident NEVER HAPPENED! The cause of the Vietnam War. Or even more recently no babies were ripped from incubators and thrown to the ground in Kuwait(Gulf War 1), The line that pushed democrats to vote for Gulf War 1. Or that Bill Clinton bombed a baby food factory to get America off the Lewinski news story.
What I always think many forget is that they are all human. They all make mistakes, they all have personal agendas, they all have bills to pay, they all have the same strengths and weaknesses we all do. And there lies the problem.
If one man, can murder 30,000 Americans, just to sleep with Jill St.John(over simplification), they are all capable of things equally as hideous.
All I ask the people that think I am over the top, mostly friends on the right, is imagine Bill Clinton doing what this administration is doing, and tell me to my face you would not be outraged.
Besides ask Hoffert, there is only one party, and it no longer represents us, the citizens of America.
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