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Much Clearer Now

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:20 am
by Mark Moran
Much Clearer Now

I'm a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight:

If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're "exotic",
"different."
BUT
Grow up in Alaska eating moose burgers, yours is a quintessential
American story.

If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.
BUT
Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, and you're a maverick.

Graduate from Harvard law School, you are unstable.
BUT
Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well
grounded.

If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the
first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter
registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as
a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a state senator
representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the
state Senate Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the
United States Senate representing a state of
13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign
Affairs, Environment, Public Works, and Veteran's Affairs committees,
you don't have any real leadership experience.
BUT
If your total resume is: Local weather girl, 4 years on the city
council, 6 years as mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20
months as governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you're
qualified to become the country's second-highest ranking executive.

If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2
beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you're not a real
Christian.
BUT
If you cheated on your wife with a rich heiress, and left your
disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a
Christian.

If you teach responsible, age-appropriate sex education, including the
proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.
BUT
If, while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no
other option in sex education in your state's school system, while your
unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant, you're very responsible.

If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a
prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city
community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family's values
don't represent America's.
BUT
If you're husband is nicknamed "First Dude", with at least one DWI
conviction and no college education, who didn't register to vote until
age 25, and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of
Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.

OK, much clearer now.

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:38 am
by Stephen Eisel
Palin is responsible for a $14 billion dollar budget and 26,000 employees.. You can put all of the lipstick you want on Obama's reume.. it will not change the fact that he lacks executive experience...

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:46 am
by Stephen Eisel
20 months as governor of a state with only 650,000 people,


Alaska is the first line of defense in our missile interceptor defense system. Palin is briefed on highly classified military issues, homeland security, and counterterrorism. Her exposure to classified material may rival Biden's. Palin is also the commander in chief of the Alaska State Defense Force, a federally recognized militia incorporated into Homeland Security's counterterrorism plans. Palin is also privy to military and intelligence secrets that are vital to the entire country's defense. Given Alaska's proximity to Russia, she may have security clearances we don't even know about.

executive experience

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:53 am
by ryan costa
Since we live in a democracy and nation of laws, Executive experience is much less important than if you were the King of England 300 years ago.

A legislators job is to push for laws they would want if they were the executive. usually a lot of mutual backscratching with other legislators is involved, but it has never been any different.

Barack Obama represents a return to traditional values that white working and upper working class voters over 50 used to rely on: A society and economy based upon lower payroll taxes, higher corporate taxes, higher tariffs and import duties, higher taxes on the rich, less trade, more manufacturing, fewer fast food franchises, less television, and more Time. Barack Obama is the best choice for Reagan Democrats.

McCain's executive experience in government and business is as negligible as Obama's. Palin's executive experience seems small and strange: Alaska is a strange place compared to the rest of the United States. It has a lot of resources, few people, great barriers to immigration(from other states) and travel, and enough government money and oil money coming in to do a lot of stuff other states can't do. It is hard to imagine how she would cope with most of the rest of American civilization.

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:54 am
by Stephen Eisel
Alaska's unique role in our national security and homeland defense.

http://www.ak-prepared.com/DMVA/Documen ... c_Plan.pdf

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:03 am
by Stephen Eisel
Since we live in a democracy and nation of laws, Executive experience is much less important than if you were the King of England 300 years ago.
put away the lipstick Ryan :D

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:05 am
by Stephen Eisel
spend 8 years as a state senator representing a district with over 750,000 people
Does this experience count since he never voted on anything? "Not Voting"

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:05 am
by ryan costa
Stephen Eisel wrote:Alaska's unique role in our national security and homeland defense.

http://www.ak-prepared.com/DMVA/Documen ... c_Plan.pdf


yeah. Alaska is closest to Japan and the desolate Russian Frontier. the japanese made a few excursions toward the Aleutian Islands during world war II.

Every U.S. state scrambles to get more military spending in it. It is "good for the economy" of the state. Governor Palin is listed as the Governor of Alaska on the PDF pamphlet you listed. She is experienced in being the governor of Alaska during the period of time in which the military in Alaska continues being the military in Alaska.

I doubt saudi arabians in Al Queda will use box cutters to hijack jetliners and ram them into Alaska. Or sail some ordinary yachts to Alaska, buy some used cars, drive through canada, backpack across the border, buy some more used cars, and use some kind of precision plan to drop synchronized bombs on hundreds of high way off ramps throughout the metro DC or los Angeles area or sprawling areas of Dallas or Colorado or Atlanta Georgia.

I'm not sure what any President can do in any case. Bush ordered some fighter jets to patrol the U.S. for a while after 9/11. They did not encounter any squadrons of the Al Queda air force. There isn't much turning an air craft carrier around can do against an al queda attack.

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:17 am
by Stephen Eisel
Ryan, do you sell for Avon? :D

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:23 am
by ryan costa
Stephen Eisel wrote:Ryan, do you sell for Avon? :D


I once worked at K-Mart. i was very good at bagging the customers merchandise. I was much better at arranging the merchandise in bags than most of the cashiers I encounter today.

Re: Much Clearer Now

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:57 am
by Bill Call
Mark Moran wrote:Much Clearer Now

.....................OK, much clearer now.


The left wing in this country is consumed by hate. Will hatred win an election? We will soon see.

Re: Much Clearer Now

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 12:15 pm
by ryan costa
Bill Call wrote:
Mark Moran wrote:Much Clearer Now

.....................OK, much clearer now.


The left wing in this country is consumed by hate. Will hatred win an election? We will soon see.


Reagan Democrats will again vote Republican. That Republican will then enable more outsourcing, raise payroll taxes, and put a million more americans in prison for non-violent crimes or light fist fights and shoving matches. Michael Milkin and Neil Bush will not be among those in prison.

Re: Much Clearer Now

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 12:26 pm
by Jim DeVito
Bill Call wrote:
Mark Moran wrote:Much Clearer Now

.....................OK, much clearer now.


The left wing in this country is consumed by hate. Will hatred win an election? We will soon see.


Explain. I do not hate Sara as a person. For all I know she could be a lovely person. I just think she is a joke of a VP choice.

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 1:10 pm
by Mark Moran
Ditto what Jim said. I dont know the lady......no one does, or did. What I do despise is the cynicism behind this pick; the people that champion this choice do not care about what is best for the country; they care about capturing a demographic and winning an election.

And I think they know this.

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 1:36 pm
by Jim DeVito
Stephen Eisel wrote:Alaska's unique role in our national security and homeland defense.

http://www.ak-prepared.com/DMVA/Documen ... c_Plan.pdf


Stephen, we have a fancy powerpoint as well. Click Here Please

As such I am now writing in Strickland/Guzman for the 08 ballot. ;-)