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Obama Gets It Wrong - Bill Cosby Gets It Right!
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:03 pm
by Bill Call
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:12 pm
by ryan costa
Bill Cosby has already made his fortune. He can speak bluntly without worrying. it is called "Retirement balls".
Barack Obama has ambition and some sense of self-preservation. He cannot speak so bluntly.
Bill Cosby grew up in an American urban working class household. Granted, it was a different era 60 years ago. Being poor didn't mean you were surrounded by thugs and morons.
Barack Obama is black, but he isn't really an African American. He grew up in Hawaii and Asia raised by whites and asians. people who grow up in hawaii aren't really like normal americans, no matter what race they are. Hawaii is an isolated paradise where industrialists and governments and people who liquidate industries send a lot of money and resources. He can't dress down the "black community" as an insider, like Cosby can.
but barack obama has given fair general criticism amounting to: turn off the tv, hit the books, stop acting stupid.
hillbillies, farm kids, ranch kids, and small town whites generally moved into cities in large numbers before blacks did in large numbers. There was more work then. They were too busy working and practicing good habits to get into so much trouble. Blacks began migrating in a bit later than that, when the standards of living were higher and there was less work. Teen culture picked up in the 50s, and the interstate highways were making stuff incoherent all over.
A common theme in history are people who are newly rich getting obnoxious or gaudy or rotten. Modern globalism and easy entertainment make most americans basically Rich, because electronic entertainment and fashion is so cheap and abundant. It can act like a disease. Populations that experience a disease more gradually have more resistance to it. Populations that are introduced to the disease more suddenly suffer more extremely from it.
Modern consumerism sells self esteem and empowerment. Even to people who don't deserve to have high self esteem. The failures of the black and urban communities are a result of people becoming what they consume and practice to be for years: loud, proud, gluttonous, and dumb. There is tremendous peer pressure to be that way.
Whites built up a resistance to higher living standards by achieving them more slowly and a few generations earlier. but even today there is a tremendous backslide. My parents are about fifty. They and their generation grew up in the west side of cleveland. It was nearly all white. but many of their friends and peers grew up to be drunks, junkies, screw ups, and people who are in and out of jail.
A lot of the baby boomers and early Gen Xers became Hosers or Neo-Rednecks, even if they did stay out of trouble. Children of Hosers and Neo-Rednecks are at higher risk of becoming junkies or white trash.
on the other hand people get arrested a lot easier these days. It used to be lots of small time fights, domestic violence, drunk driving, and public intoxication weren't serious crimes. Cops would just give you a warning or talking to. Cops or random security guards could route obnoxious kids with a quick slap to the side of the head.
Like education, architecture, general practice medicine, law, accounting, firefighting, and safety, law enforcement got a lot more sophisticated and expensive without greatly improving access or effectiveness in every day stuff.
Some populations are more susceptible to modern absurdity than others. It is best not to think of ourselves as victims of racism or reverse racism, but we can still be victims of modern absurdity.