The Observation Deck

This week Sen. Clinton said that she and Sen. McCain have foreign policy experience and Barack Obama has a speech he made in 2002.

An interestingly savage piece of political maneuvering, there. Can someone here explain some other way to interpret this except as follows: "Vote for me, or f__k the Democratic party!"

And if that's the correct interpretation, can someone tell in what sense they should be proud of supporting this psychopath?

Mark Moran wrote:And if that's the correct interpretation...

It's not.

You seem to be a little obsessed with this huh?

so what's your interpretation?

Mark Moran wrote:so what's your interpretation?

Seems pretty simple. She's saying that she has foreign policy experience and Obama doesn't.

That's sweet.

If Obama wins the nomination, Hillary has provided McCain video footage we'll be looking at until Nov. You dont think that was calculated?

But dont bother answering. Obsessed no, but pissed off yes. The gruesome twosome will do whatever it takes to get the power they want, even if it means destroying the party's chance to win teh White House.

Yeah, Im going to sign off on this.

Obama would seem to have more foreign policy experience than the Clintons had upon ascending to the white house.

He was raised in Hawaii, which is full of foreigners and tourists from all over. He lived in Indonesia for a while, and visited his fathers family in Kenya. He attended Columbia and Harvard, which have many foreign students and students from all over america.

The history of U.S. foreign policy for the last 40 years has set very low benchmarks. Obama is at least equal to meeting them. Whoever the next president is will have little influence over the sheer inertia of the last 40 years. As politicians they are not capable of speaking that bluntly.

You know Mark, you have a great point here. She shouldn't be stating she has better qualifications then Mr. Obama, instead she should get up there and say that she is nowhere near as qualified as Mr Obama and everyone should just vote for her opponent so they can all go home.

Dude - if you're going to come up with a reason to vote for Mr Obama, maybe you should: A - state what is good about him and not what is bad
about Ms. Clinton
B - come up with a reasonalbe arguement
C - don't cuss

Your right--my apologies for inappropriate comments.

And your candidate should take your advise--tout her own credentials without undermining her fellow Democrat's chances in November should she (gasp!!!!) lose. It says a lot that this kind of tactic is now viewed as just business as usual.

And while she's at she should release her tax returns as other candidates have done. Sorry, but my thread wasnt about why I like Obama. Its about why I think Clinton is a really shady person, and my real frustration with what happened this week. I cant for the life of me understand why people want this couple back in our lives.

But I'll give it a rest.

All politicians are a little shady, even Obama or they wouldn't be where they are.

For example, despite what Obama publicly says, his advisors told the BBC news that it's crazy to think he'll pull troops out of Iraq immediately. They said "it's March 2008, no one can know what will happen". That seems interesting to me.

Then there's the whole issue of his advisors and the Canadian embassy and backtracking on his NAFTA tough talk.

Now am I surprised, no. Does it mean I wouldn't vote for him, no. However, to try and say one politician is bad and another isn't is pretty disingenuous. They all say things that people want to hear and then don't always really mean what they say. That's the game of politics for better or worse.

But your assertion that somehow Obama is more truthful than Clinton is really not true.

This is funny.


I don't know if anyone's been paying attention lately, but the Clinton camp is now tossing around the idea of a Obama/Clinton, Clinton/Obama ticket.

Bill was quoted saying that the ticket would be unstoppable. Hillary's been mentioning in interviews that while she feels she would be the strongest commander in chief (because Ohio is hers) she would welcome a Obama/Clinton ticket as well.

Her campaign staff has also been hinting it in releases and interviews.

Quite the strategy. I think she's realized that her chances are slim and the only way to get into the White House again (right now) is to ride the Obama tide.

Personally, I think that Hillary should stick this out. While I always liked Obama's charisma and confidence, I like Hillary's fierceness. Part of what turned me away from Obama was the fact that he would bite his tongue and not defend himself. All week before Ohio I was waiting for him to take a serious jab at Clinton and he didn't. He seemed scared and unsure at the CSU Debate.

The only "change" I see in Obama at the moment are his positions. He gave the same answer to policies on NAFTA as Clinton did at the Debate. He failed to set himself apart. And on top of that he keeps reminding voters that somehow Hillary's experience isn't good enough. It's all based off of one vote, to authorize the war. By the way, he wasn't in the Senate to vote against it, so how he can claim that he didn't vote for it is beyond my imagination.

It will be interesting how things play out. I think that people are on a Obama high. Yes, he's inspiring. Yes, he's charismatic. Yes, he's probably going to be the Democratic Nominee, but no, his experience does not trounce Hillary's, his stance on National Security and the Economy (which is what this general election will be about) is weaker than Hillary's plan and his skin isn't as thick as Hillary's.

I hope they run together because a mix of their policies would be great. Hillary's economic plan, health care plan and National Security experience, plus Obama's education plan, charisma and appeal to independent voters, would be truly unstoppable.

To throw this out, I think John McCain is a reputable, respectable candidate. The Republican Party should be proud that he's their guy for this election. I just hope that he doesn't become one of Bush's pawns..like the Medeved guy is for Stalin in Russia now. McCain has a chance to pump life back into the Republican Party if he does what he feels is right.

Phew, I'm exhausted after that!