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wait, isn't this what we wanted?

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:24 pm
by Ivor Karabatkovic
question.

Wasn't Pres. Bush in charge of giving tax breaks to those that earned higher incomes in his terms in office? Didn't the middle class, the lower class, and especially Democrats cry for hiking the tax dollars of the rich and to stop taking money from the Middle Class which is slowly going extinct?

Clinton bashing Obama over a 'proposed' tax deal


Now until candidates actually talk about issues that are important, issues that concern us now instead of in 2012, I don't know what to think anymore.

What about education?

This is my first week of being in college. The difference between high school and college is night and day. My second day of English class, and my teacher is throwing terms left and right that we SHOULD know and are expected to know, but 90% of my classmates have never heard these terms.

That was probably the biggest shock to me. I remember spending countless of weeks on Shakespeare, but I've never been taught about misplaced modifiers, dangling modifiers, voice shifts from active to passive in a sentence or paper, parallelism in sentences, fragments, etc etc etc.

And we wonder why education is getting worse. We aren't teaching the right things anymore. And to tie funding to performance is crazy because students cannot be asked to know X Y and Z when A B and C is what they learned.

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:46 am
by Bret Callentine
but I've never been taught about misplaced modifiers, dangling modifiers, voice shifts from active to passive in a sentence or paper, parallelism in sentences, fragments, etc etc etc.


as long as you're not "left behind" I'm sure you'll be fine :roll:

Keep your chin up and your nose to the grindstone, college is always a bit of a shock no matter where you went to high school. Besides, if it's not a challenge, then you're not getting your money's worth.

The golden rule for college, ALWAYS ask for help as soon as you need it. Don't wait 'till later. Remember, in this case, YOU are the client, and they need to make sure they are servicing your needs.

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:35 am
by Ivor Karabatkovic
college is a blast, it's my type of atmosphere.

english doesn't phase me one bit, but I'm just pointing out the things that I and my classmates were never taught.

Important things...

serious debates

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:03 pm
by ryan costa
They should stick to debating who likes Martin Luther King more....
that is something that will make a difference.

Re: serious debates

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:20 pm
by Phil Florian
ryan costa wrote:They should stick to debating who likes Martin Luther King more....
that is something that will make a difference.


Isn't that going along with the "who is more like Reagan?" on the other side of the aisle? Yeesh.

Re: wait, isn't this what we wanted?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:46 am
by Bryan Schwegler
Ivor Karabatkovic wrote:What about education?

This is my first week of being in college. The difference between high school and college is night and day. My second day of English class, and my teacher is throwing terms left and right that we SHOULD know and are expected to know, but 90% of my classmates have never heard these terms.

That was probably the biggest shock to me. I remember spending countless of weeks on Shakespeare, but I've never been taught about misplaced modifiers, dangling modifiers, voice shifts from active to passive in a sentence or paper, parallelism in sentences, fragments, etc etc etc.


That's because they moved away from teaching true grammar in schools at some point because it was "too hard" to expect students to learn it. Rather sad really, when we try an educate to the lowest common denominator.

I learned more about English grammar and vocabulary taking 4 years of Latin at LHS than I ever did in any of my English classes grades K-12. And I thank God that I knew it because my college certainly expected me to know it.