Crime & Punishment - Fours Years For Murder

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Bill Call
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Crime & Punishment - Fours Years For Murder

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I don't know what is more disturbing; the sentence of four years for beating a girl to death or the fact that the perpetrator's record sales were not affect by the crime.

http://www.city-journal.org/html/eon2007-11-06td.html

I guess as American becomes more European we can expect the same type of sentence here. Oh wait!! its already happening.

If the victims family beats the killer to death with baseball bats would 6 months be too much or too little punishment?

Part of the article points up the dangerous hypocrisy of the left in Europe. They condemn Israel but fete the Syrian dictator. I guess its the same type of hypocrisy that has Europeans more upset about Guantanamo than Auschwitz.
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Re: Crime & Punishment - Fours Years For Murder

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Bill Call wrote:I don't know what is more disturbing; the sentence of four years for beating a girl to death or the fact that the perpetrator's record sales were not affect by the crime.

http://www.city-journal.org/html/eon2007-11-06td.html

I guess as American becomes more European we can expect the same type of sentence here. Oh wait!! its already happening.

If the victims family beats the killer to death with baseball bats would 6 months be too much or too little punishment?

Part of the article points up the dangerous hypocrisy of the left in Europe. They condemn Israel but fete the Syrian dictator. I guess its the same type of hypocrisy that has Europeans more upset about Guantanamo than Auschwitz.


Getting drunk and committing violent crimes isn't a left or right centric crime. The author suggests greater sentences would deter such crimes. History shows regular enforcement of the death penalty doesn't deter drunken violent impulse crimes. Watch any western.

He was tried and sentenced in Lithuania. Lithuania is generally a pretty tough place, with a lot of hardcore drinking. They're probably used to drunk people battering other people to death.

Maybe George and Richard were drunk when they declared war on Iraq. Their tax and trade policies will certainly kill social security. Setting the stage for mass gericide is more acceptable than legalizing abortion.

Rush Limbaugh used to argue for sending drug law violators to prison for life. Then he got hooked on the Junk.

The wealthy have gotten lighter sentences or avoided indictments entirely for generations.

In America your record sales not only won't be affected, but will go up, if you commit a violent crime. Perhaps the Europeans are becoming more like us. I know there can't be a direct causation between the welfare state and violent crime, because most European countries are far more left than us and have far more pleasant cities.

The article didn't mention the left in Europe. It said the individual murderer criticized Israel and appeared at a rock concert in Syria. The article didn't mention his or Europe or the European Left's feelings on Guantanamo or how those feelings compare to their feelings about Auschwitz. From what my college friends told me, German students cry when they watch Schindler's List(the movie), even though they weren't responsible for any of it. What is more, European allies generally spent much more lives and blood fighting the Axis than we did. So you shouldn't accuse them of somehow tolerating Auschwitz just because they don't have unwaivering support of Israel.
Bill Call
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Post by Bill Call »

Excellent response.

I'll have to give some thought to my response to your response.
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Post by Stephen Eisel »

Rush Limbaugh used to argue for sending drug law violators to prison for life. Then he got hooked on the Junk.
I use to listen to Rush a long time ago... I do not recall him ever taking that stand.
ryan costa
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book him

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he said it on tv one night.
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