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Terrorists teaming with drug cartels
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:09 pm
by Stephen Eisel
Drugs and terrorist just do not mix (clicky)
[quote]Islamic extremists embedded in the United States â€â€
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:58 pm
by Danielle Masters
Thanks. Now I feel even safer about how open our borders are.
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:07 pm
by Stephen Eisel
Danielle Masters wrote:Thanks. Now I feel even safer about how open our borders are.
Ooops just an oversight by Home Land security... D maybe they will defend our borders after the next terrorist attack
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:38 pm
by Danielle Masters
Stephen Eisel wrote: maybe they will defend our borders after the next terrorist attack
Sure they will!
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:53 am
by dl meckes
Guarded or unguarded borders played no part in the last terrorist attack.
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:10 am
by Stephen Eisel
dl meckes wrote:Guarded or unguarded borders played no part in the last terrorist attack.
Having an unsecured border and letting your enemy have free reign to cross that border is never a good idea.. Note I said next terrorist attack..
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:28 am
by Stephen Eisel
dl meckes wrote:Guarded or unguarded borders played no part in the last terrorist attack.
[quote]Islamic extremists embedded in the United States â€â€
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:19 pm
by Jim DeVito
Stephen Eisel wrote:Should we just concentrate all of our efforts on Middle Eastern men boarding planes?
Or... we could concentrate our efforts on not parading around the world like the bunch of self righteous nut cases we are. Maybe some people don't like democracy and aren't to happy with us shoving it there faces. Don't get me wrong Saddam was indeed a nut case and needed to be removed from power. I think that the people would have done just fine on there own with the help of a well placed covert sniper to put one between his (Saddams) eyes.
As far as the boarders go. The crap we spend our money on is ridiculous. A giant non-eco friendly
fence is not going to do anything. When the penalty for jumping the Berlin wall was being shot on site, they still found a way over. What we need to be doing is creating economic opportunity south of the boarder so people want to stay there. And in turn be more willing to stop the 1 or 2 "Evil-Dooers" that come across
Take Care All!!
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:07 pm
by Stephen Eisel
The current parading in Afghanistan and Iraq may be successful on the war on terrorism. Time will tell. The old parading, Europe, South America Japan and Australia needs to be reevaluated. Some of the old parading cost should be cut back so our soldiers can protect our borders. The US spends $26 billions annually as a result of illegal immigration. Bringing some soldiers home and putting them on the border should be more cost effective than shipping them and their equipment all around the world. And may help reduce that $26 billion bill. No, soldiers on the border will not solve all of our problems but it may reduce the risk that an open border poses in this day and age.
Some people may not like democracy but when 60% turn out to vote under the threat of violence, bombing and suicide attacks. You are going to have a hard time convincing me that democracy is not important to these people.
Wasnt NAFTA suppose to address the creating of economic opportunites south of the border?
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:49 pm
by dl meckes
Wouldn't having soldiers on the border kind of mess up that whole thingie about the federal military not being used for domestic purposes?
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:59 pm
by Stephen Eisel
dl meckes wrote:Wouldn't having soldiers on the border kind of mess up that whole thingie about the federal military not being used for domestic purposes?
International border
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:22 pm
by Stephen Eisel
dl meckes wrote:Wouldn't having soldiers on the border kind of mess up that whole thingie about the federal military not being used for domestic purposes?
Soldiers on the border (clicky)8/1/2007 - FARGO, N.D. -- Airmen of the Air National Guard and Soldiers of the National Guard from all over the country have been deploying to the United States' southern border-states since the very early stages of Operation JUMP START (OJS), which began June 15, 2006.
The Guards' border mission is to provide support to the U.S. Customs and Border Protection's Border Patrol along the southwest border. OJS allows Guardsmen to fill such critical roles in the areas of administration, communications, intelligence, maintenance, construction, entry detection and identification.
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:28 pm
by Jim DeVito
Stephen Eisel wrote:
Some people may not like democracy but when 60% turn out to vote under the threat of violence, bombing and suicide attacks. You are going to have a hard time convincing me that democracy is not important to these people.
I agree. The problem I see with it is that the people need to be enabled. They need to be enabled to impose there version of democracy. Not some post Soviet paranoid fear mongering kind. They need to have a tribal version, one that allows the elected 'heads' to be closer to the 'people'
All of that seems to wishy washy for real life. In the end we will be batter off if we just stop being so mean to everybody else.
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:48 pm
by Stephen Eisel
Jim DeVito wrote:Stephen Eisel wrote:
Some people may not like democracy but when 60% turn out to vote under the threat of violence, bombing and suicide attacks. You are going to have a hard time convincing me that democracy is not important to these people.
I agree. The problem I see with it is that the people need to be enabled. They need to be enabled to impose there version of democracy. Not some post Soviet paranoid fear mongering kind. They need to have a tribal version, one that allows the elected 'heads' to be closer to the 'people'
All of that seems to wishy washy for real life. In the end we will be batter off if we just stop being so mean to everybody else.
Enabled is the key word. There are some positive signs in Iraq. The Iraqi army and police forces seem to be attracting many Iraqi volunteers (yes they get paid). Iraqis also seem to be turning against Al Qaeda. These are small steps but at least they are in the right direction.
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:35 am
by Richard Cole
Stephen Eisel wrote: Iraqis also seem to be turning against Al Qaeda. These are small steps but at least they are in the right direction.
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.
Al Qaeda had nothing to do Iraq prior to the US invasion/liberation.
What has been the cost, both in finances and human life, of achieving "small steps".