How do we enforce masks/crowds?

[Dan Alaimo]

Since following an online discussion of the non-mask wearing crowd at the Riverwood bar Friday night, several points have stayed wirh me:
* the word 'snitch' was used a lot.
* this is an ongoing occurrence.
* there is apparently no enforcement mechanism.

It was mentioned that LPD has no interest in being that enforcer, and I can agree with that. As has been brought up in the "defund the police" discussion, they already have too much on their plate, and this does not necessarily require police training. "Here's your warning M. Bar Owner. One more time and your liquor license is suspended."

Who to do this? Again I point to the governor of New York Andrew Cuomo.. He is setting up a separate force to support the police in these matters. With others shut down by Trump, still is the de facto national leader on Covid-19. NYS is the model. Thus my comments rhe other day. For Lakewood, I think this means a group of vetted volunteers working with LPD. Aside from the idea not being invented at City Hall, it just might work.

[Mark Kindt]

What No One Wants To Hear

1. All municipal functions should be primarily, if not solely devoted to the management and mitigation of Covid-19 contagion.

2. Employees engaged in non-essential functions should be reassigned to the management and mitigation of Covid-19 contagion.

3. To the extent that the Planning Department is not solely devoted to the management and mitigation of Covid-19 contagion, it should be tasked with testing, contact tracing, quarantine management, and planning for vaccination.

4. The Planning Commission should be instructed to halt the issuance of conditional use permits for use of public property that may provide vectors for Covid-19 from the bar/restaurant business.

5. All businesses serving alcoholic beverages should be ordered closed for 90 days.

6. The City of Lakewood should issue a mandatory mask order immediately; and other orders necessary to manage and mitigate Covid-19 contagion.

7. The City of Lakewood should issue $25.00 citations to those in violation of local or state mandated mask orders.

8. Enabling legislation should be brought before City Council immediately to enact an effective program to manage and mitigate Covid-19 contagion.

[Jim O'Bryan]

[quote="Mark Kindt"]What No One Wants To Hear

7. The City of Lakewood should issue $25.00 citations to those in violation of local or state mandated mask orders.

$200.00 first offense, $450.00 each additional offense. More than 10, start adding in community service.

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[pj bennett]

I agree, that some sort of enforcement needs to be put in place.
All bars should be closed and citations given.

Does Mayor George have the authority to order all bars closed until further notice?
She is the Safety Director of Lakewood...yes?

I see this as a matter of everyone's safety.

Yesterday, I drove a fair length of Detroit Ave. around 3pm or so. Easily, less than half of the pedestrians I saw were wearing masks. So much for the mandate.

Snitch, huh? I see this as a matter of self-preservation. I've already added the Cuyahoga Cty. hotline number, which was just recently listed in the Plain Dealer for reporting wrong doers, to my cell phone.

The number of people dying, who believe that this either a hoax, or have the attitude that 'it won't happen to them', is growing steadily. People far younger than myself are dying. The ignorance of these non-believers and non-complaints is staggering.

Some measures need to be put in place. They need to be put in place NOW.

[Mark Kindt]

Emergency Legislation Power

Lakewood City Council routinely runs legislation through Council using its emergency authority for even the most mundane and minor matters.

No reason that in a time of an actual emergency it can't do the same to protect the public health of its citizens and others from the risk of Covid-19 contagion.

Everything that I have listed is do-able. It only takes the will and courage to do it.

What did the Mayor of Avon do? Issued a mask order. What did the Mayor of Cleveland do? Issued a mask order.

Who can't comply with advisory guidelines? Bars.

We have had 120 days to get this right. Let's stop getting it wrong.

While there are many noble causes that I am prepared to sacrifice my life for; the right for a business to operate with a liquor license during a national pandemic is not one of them.

[Stan Austin]

I'm thinking that liability insurance carriers and their co-dependent claims attorneys are just getting ready on the sidelines to get into the game. This lil' ole' pandamic is going to make asbestos litigation and payouts look like--white dust!

[pj bennett]

Oops, typo.

I meant, that the ignorance of the non-believers and 'non-compliants' is staggering.

After posting on Facebook, that 'absolutely not' will they wear a facemask....well, they won't be making any more posts.

[Dan Alaimo]

Riverwood near top of list for complaints, after Town Hall. Who is acting on the complaints in Lakewood besides the sheriff? It seems we're leaving a lot up to the county.

Four out of five mask complaints in Cuyahoga County were business-related: See the full list
(I didn't see a link to the list.)
"Four out of five mask complaints in Cuyahoga County were business-related: See the full list" https://www.cleveland.com/news/2020/07/ ... utType=amp

[Dan Alaimo]

After all these words, the question remains, who is going to enforce it?

Mark, if I understood what you said correctly, it was to take an existing, but temporarily expendable part of the the city government and task them with it? Like planning?

I'd further suggest that the parking enforcement people be temporarily reassigned. It's a similar role.

[Jim O'Bryan]

After all these words, the question remains, who is going to enforce it?

Mark, if I understood what you said correctly, it was to take an existing, but temporarily expendable part of the the city government and task them with it? Like planning?

I'd further suggest that the parking enforcement people be temporarily reassigned. It's a similar role.

Dan

Ed FitzGerald out sourced the meter work, I am not sure if they are "Lakewood" employees in the common sense, and or if we have a contractual obligation to the California company that not gets all of the meter $$$$.

At $250 and offense, we could go with overtime police, and or auxiliary police.

IT makes a lot of sense to have the auxiliary out walking the streets right now helping with enforcement.

I just heard of people getting harassed for wearing masks, which is crazy.

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[Mark Kindt]

Mr. Alaimo, I have only one point:

The City of Lakewood has a duty to protect the health and safety of its residents and others from Covid-19 and it should use all of its governmental authority to do so. --And, do so immediately.

[Mark Kindt]

The City of Lakewood has a duty to protect the health and safety of its residents and others from Covid-19 and it should use all of its governmental authority to do so. --And, do so immediately.

1. All municipal functions should be primarily, if not solely devoted to the management and mitigation of Covid-19 contagion.

2. Employees engaged in non-essential functions should be reassigned to the management and mitigation of Covid-19 contagion.

3. To the extent that the Planning Department is not solely devoted to the management and mitigation of Covid-19 contagion, it should be tasked with testing, contact tracing, quarantine management, and planning for vaccination.

4. The Planning Commission should be instructed to halt the issuance of conditional use permits for use of public property that may provide vectors for Covid-19 contagion from the bar/restaurant business.

5. All businesses serving alcoholic beverages should be ordered closed for 90 days.

6. The City of Lakewood should issue a mandatory mask order immediately; and other orders necessary to manage and mitigate Covid-19 contagion.

7. The City of Lakewood should issue $250.00 citations to those in violation of local or state mandated mask orders.

8. Emergency enabling legislation should be brought before City Council immediately to enact an effective program to manage and mitigate Covid-19 contagion.

9. The City of Lakewood should retain an independent epidemiologist(s) for expert consultation.

10. Each of the above 9 steps should be taken immediately.

Not writing here to debate or even discuss the merits of these steps. They are self-evident.

[Mark Kindt]

Potential Mask Order In Lakewood

https://www.cleveland.com/community/202 ... roval.html

[Dan Alaimo]

And we the people should start our own task forcs with guv officials, police', MDs, business/bar owners, taxpayers and representatives of any other relevant stakeholder groups. Not invented here? Fork it.

[Mark Kindt]

Potential Mask Order In Lakewood

https://www.cleveland.com/community/202 ... roval.html

Reviewing city council agendas and minutes posted on the City's web page, I did not find any information about the matter to be heard this coming Monday (July 20th) relating to a proposed mask resolution/ordinance.