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Lakewood's Coronovirus Plan...

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:43 pm
by Jim O'Bryan
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It would now seem that the last administration was preparing a mass grave for coronavirus victims. Especially as it is deadly to diabetics, and elderly. Something Lakewood seems to have an abundance of.

Well, as we no longer have a full service hospital to quarantine or even take care of large numbers of people, perhaps it was the plan all along?

Makes more sense than everything else they said.

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Re: Lakewood's Coronovirus Plan...

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:11 pm
by Jim O'Bryan
Jim O'Bryan wrote:Image

It would now seem that the last administration was preparing a mass grave for coronavirus victims. Especially as it is deadly to diabetics, and elderly. Something Lakewood seems to have an abundance of.

Well, as we no longer have a full service hospital to quarantine or even take care of large numbers of people, perhaps it was the plan all along?

Makes more sense than everything else they said.

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Good news!

The CDC claims that by next week they will have up to 40 places to process modified tests for coronavirus! That is 40 places to process all tests, well not really the test, but something they are working with until they develop a real test.

Doesn't matter, your doctor cannot administer the test, only those handful of places approved by the CDC.

On the good side, no one knows they are contagious until it is too late, and people are testing positive for it, after they got over it and can still transmit disease.

OK not that good. How about this, our Family Health Center has seating for up to 100 people while waiting for testing and treatment. I mean if they had it and could do it.

OK the real good news, Mitchell's has not completely ruled out moving into One Lakewood

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Re: Lakewood's Coronovirus Plan...

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:40 pm
by Bridget Conant
This is important.

If you have diabetes, not only are you likely to have a more severe case of Covid 19, you are actually more susceptible to catching it!

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/925681

This may present a problem in Lakewood as the Cleveland Clinic community surveys indicated a high percentage of residents have diabetes.

Re: Lakewood's Coronovirus Plan...

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:09 pm
by pj bennett
Can't we just bicycle our way through a pandemic?
The coronavirus won't dare touch us, if we pedal fast enough!

After all, we were told, that we don't need a hospital, provided we eat the right foods and exercise :roll:

Meanwhile, according to this past Monday's Committee Of the Whole meeting, the health analysis survey is still being worked on.

Re: Lakewood's Coronovirus Plan...

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:26 am
by Mark Kindt
Here is a recent article on the capability to test for COVID-19

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/2 ... cdc-117779

So far, the United States appears to be lucky.

Re: Lakewood's Coronovirus Plan...

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:57 am
by Bridget Conant
It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

Considering that our country has no real leader, and that top health officials are being muzzled, I’m not optimistic.

Re: Lakewood's Coronovirus Plan...

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:43 pm
by Jim O'Bryan
Bridget Conant wrote:It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

Considering that our country has no real leader, and that top health officials are being muzzled, I’m not optimistic.
I think it is all over blown.

I mean what are the chances of it coming here?

A person is contagious almost from the moment it enters your body. A person can transmit before feeling any symptoms, if indeed they ever feel symptoms. Many have not felt any illness at all. Still they can transmit the disease. And then, when a person is over the disease, they can still transmit the disease. 15% will never know, 65% will just get very ill, and 9% or higher will be hospitalized and or put on a respirator. 2-3% will die. As of right now.

Only 45 known cases in America, most in California and NYC. I mean who travels to those places? Who comes into contact with people at those airports?

Yeah Trump is probably right on this one. "It will magically vanish..." or as Buddha would say, "... It won't."

Today they were talking the fallout on Formula One schedule and if there will be a schedule. That is a $50+ billion dollar global show.

Hell they are all ready running low on supplies on the docks on California.

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Re: Lakewood's Coronovirus Plan...

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:59 pm
by Dan Alaimo
Jim O'Bryan wrote:
Bridget Conant wrote:It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

Considering that our country has no real leader, and that top health officials are being muzzled, I’m not optimistic.
I think it is all over blown.

I mean what are the chances of it coming here?

A person is contagious almost from the moment it enters your body. A person can transmit before feeling any symptoms, if indeed they ever feel symptoms. Many have not felt any illness at all. Still they can transmit the disease. And then, when a person is over the disease, they can still transmit the disease. 15% will never know, 65% will just get very ill, and 9% or higher will be hospitalized and or put on a respirator. 2-3% will die. As of right now.

Only 45 known cases in America, most in California and NYC. I mean who travels to those places? Who comes into contact with people at those airports?

Yeah Trump is probably right on this one. "It will magically vanish..." or as Buddha would say, "... It won't."

Today they were talking the fallout on Formula One schedule and if there will be a schedule. That is a $50+ billion dollar global show.

Hell they are all ready running low on supplies on the docks on California.

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There was an excellent presentation on the Thursday edition of "The Daily," a podcast from The New York Times. It was an interview with a reporter who has been covering pandemics for many, many years. Indeed this is serious stuff.
https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0c ... HpJb09FZTg

Notes:
- yes, it will decrease in intensity in April but will be back with a vengeance in the fall.
- yes, Trump fired his contagious disease specialist to replace them now with Pence.
- my observation is that certain supplies, like facemasks, are already selling out, but aerosol transmission is s lower possibility than physical transmission - touching things.
- when CDC says "prepare", they mean get ready psychologically for a long, terrible pandemic; not to rush out and buy stuff.

Re: Lakewood's Coronovirus Plan...

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 3:53 pm
by Dan Alaimo
Looking at the picture at the top of this page, one thing we should rush out to buy is a large nursing and medical facility. It's likely that it will be filled by the end of the year. To satisfy the developers, it can be temporary.

Re: Lakewood's Coronovirus Plan...

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:18 pm
by Dan Alaimo
Here's an article that makes many good points. Wash your hands and live your lives.
"The most dangerous thing about coronavirus is the hysteria" - The Spectator
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2020/02/the ... -hysteria/

Re: Lakewood's Coronovirus Plan...

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:14 pm
by Mark Kindt
Reminds me of the Outer Limits episode where an entire block of a city is missing and the only thing left is the hole.

--Rewritten for Lakewood:

Intelligent, young couple, move to city and pay all their taxes for 35 years and when the foreign pandemic arrives they drive to their public hospital for treatment, get this horror fans, only to discover that there is a hole in the ground where their hospital used to be...

One is fiction, the other is fact.

Re: Lakewood's Coronovirus Plan...

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 3:37 pm
by Dan Alaimo
Dan Alaimo wrote:Looking at the picture at the top of this page, one thing we should rush out to buy is a large nursing and medical facility. It's likely that it will be filled by the end of the year. To satisfy the developers, it can be temporary.
Partly in reply to myself (above) and partly in reply to Mark Kindt's last two posts about the future:

A very smart use of that that land, one that would require more than an ounce of vision but at least two ounces, would be a temporary regional treatment center/hospital for the coronavirus. From what I read it will attack full strength toward the end of the year, so there is time. There certainly are obstacles, but if people truly have the good of Lakewood at heart, they can do it.

Re: Lakewood's Coronovirus Plan...

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 3:51 pm
by Stan Austin
A creative lawyer could get us out of this civic insane arrangement with this so called developer while a fast track architect could design a temporary facility that could be transitioned into a permanent facility for Metro.

Re: Lakewood's Coronovirus Plan...

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:15 pm
by Dan Alaimo
Stan Austin wrote:A creative lawyer could get us out of this civic insane arrangement with this so called developer while a fast track architect could design a temporary facility that could be transitioned into a permanent facility for Metro.
Stan, I don't know how interested Metro would be. The original proposal was made at a time when they were planning their big renovations to the main campus. Those would have included Lakewood Hospital, but that ship has sailed. However, Metro would be the one health system to take the lead in a regional coronavirus response.