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Nature’s Bin Constantino’s to Become Brewery
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:25 pm
by Bridget Conant
In keeping with its quest to be the “Healthiest City in America,” the city will welcome its latest brewery at the old Nature’s Bin site on Sloan.
The owner is the son of the man who owns Constantino’s, Andrew Revy.
The owner claims this will be the city’s first brewery, seemingly unaware of BottleHouse Brewery on Madison. (Disclaimer: the beer isn’t brewed onsite)
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Re: Nature’s Bin Constantino’s to Become Brewery
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:51 am
by Michael Deneen
So now we'll have the "Nature's Bin Brewery" to go along with the "Little League Beer Garden".
Thanks Team Summers!
Re: Nature’s Bin Constantino’s to Become Brewery
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:32 am
by Bridget Conant
Also, the Birdtown Brewery project has continually pushed back their opening date and now appears to be stalled.
Re: Nature’s Bin Constantino’s to Become Brewery
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:33 am
by Matthew Lee
Michael Deneen wrote:So now we'll have the "Nature's Bin Brewery" to go along with the "Little League Beer Garden".
Thanks Team Summers!
Would it be better for those locations to be empty? Personally, I don't think so. Would I rather have something more exciting and different? Sure. But if the alternative is to have those locations sit vacant, I definitely would rather have those legal businesses there than nothing at all.
JMHO
Re: Nature’s Bin Constantino’s to Become Brewery
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:44 am
by Bridget Conant
Birdtown Brewery gained City approval in mid-2014 and they purchased the vacant church. They installed tanks and remodeled but kept pushing back the opening date from 2017 on.
Cannot find any further information. I’d guess since we are coming up on SIX years, the project flopped. Can’t find a thing on that awful city website.
Re: Nature’s Bin Constantino’s to Become Brewery
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:19 am
by ryan costa
this does not appear to be something the city is funding. unless the business is getting a special tax abatement that other businesses do not get.
Re: Nature’s Bin Constantino’s to Become Brewery
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:55 am
by Jim O'Bryan
Matthew Lee wrote:Michael Deneen wrote:So now we'll have the "Nature's Bin Brewery" to go along with the "Little League Beer Garden".
Thanks Team Summers!
Would it be better for those locations to be empty? Personally, I don't think so. Would I rather have something more exciting and different? Sure. But if the alternative is to have those locations sit vacant, I definitely would rather have those legal businesses there than nothing at all.
JMHO
Correct, Cities generally cannot keep up with change and so become terrible developers, so I favor organic.
At the same time, a city based on bars and food will soon run its course. At least it has always been a quick bandaid on a long term problem. Diversity, is the key to and long term.
As we prepare for the next food and dinning guide the amount of new and enlarge places is impressive, kind of. ecause it is also offset by places that closed or were still born.
Time will tell, and if history teaches us anything, enjoy them while they are here,
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Re: Nature’s Bin Constantino’s to Become Brewery
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:59 am
by Bridget Conant
Can Dan O’Malley update us on Birdtown Brewery since it’s his his Ward?
Re: Nature’s Bin Constantino’s to Become Brewery
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:21 pm
by Brad Presutto
Did Scene magazine not consider Bottlehouse Brewery not a brewery?
Re: Nature’s Bin Constantino’s to Become Brewery
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:37 pm
by Dan OMalley
Bridget Conant wrote:Can Dan O’Malley update us on Birdtown Brewery since it’s his his Ward?
I don't have much of an update on the Birdtown Brewery and frankly I've stopped asking. My impression is that the proprietors - who also own the very successful Barrio restaurant chain - are extremely busy with other projects. And the market has become more saturated with microbreweries since this project was initially conceptualized, so it doesn't seem to be as much of a priority for them as it may have been once. However, they do seem to be slowly making progress. Neighbors periodically report they notice equipment being carried in, significant construction taking place, etc. At this point, I won't make any predictions on it until I'm actually sitting inside having a beer.
Re: Nature’s Bin Constantino’s to Become Brewery
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:51 pm
by Bridget Conant
Dan OMalley wrote:Bridget Conant wrote:Can Dan O’Malley update us on Birdtown Brewery since it’s his his Ward?
I don't have much of an update on the Birdtown Brewery and frankly I've stopped asking. My impression is that the proprietors - who also own the very successful Barrio restaurant chain - are extremely busy with other projects. And the market has become more saturated with microbreweries since this project was initially conceptualized, so it doesn't seem to be as much of a priority for them as it may have been once. However, they do seem to be slowly making progress. Neighbors periodically report they notice equipment being carried in, significant construction taking place, etc. At this point, I won't make any predictions on it until I'm actually sitting inside having a beer.
Thanks for the info.
But are they on any sort of timeline to comply with city building codes, etc?
I thought the project required approval, in which case, wouldn’t follow be appropriate?
There was some discussion on social media that they were selling off equipment.
Finally, if they don’t move forward, what becomes of the property?
Re: Nature’s Bin Constantino’s to Become Brewery
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:57 pm
by Dan OMalley
Bridget Conant wrote:Dan OMalley wrote:Bridget Conant wrote:Can Dan O’Malley update us on Birdtown Brewery since it’s his his Ward?
I don't have much of an update on the Birdtown Brewery and frankly I've stopped asking. My impression is that the proprietors - who also own the very successful Barrio restaurant chain - are extremely busy with other projects. And the market has become more saturated with microbreweries since this project was initially conceptualized, so it doesn't seem to be as much of a priority for them as it may have been once. However, they do seem to be slowly making progress. Neighbors periodically report they notice equipment being carried in, significant construction taking place, etc. At this point, I won't make any predictions on it until I'm actually sitting inside having a beer.
Thanks for the info.
But are they on any sort of timeline to comply with city building codes, etc?
I thought the project required approval, in which case, wouldn’t follow be appropriate?
Correct. They have what's called a "conditional use" permit and the conditions are several. The permit also has an expiration date, which has been renewed, and they must continue to demonstrate their intentions of opening, demonstrate compliance with our code, and will continue to do so once the place actually opens (we've placed special restrictions on this establishment, e.g. hours of operation). I am not sure where they are timeline-wise with the current permit but will find out.
Re: Nature’s Bin Constantino’s to Become Brewery
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:09 pm
by Bridget Conant
Great!
Thank you!
Re: Nature’s Bin Constantino’s to Become Brewery
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:14 pm
by Michael Deneen
Matthew Lee wrote:Michael Deneen wrote:So now we'll have the "Nature's Bin Brewery" to go along with the "Little League Beer Garden".
Thanks Team Summers!
Would it be better for those locations to be empty? Personally, I don't think so. Would I rather have something more exciting and different? Sure. But if the alternative is to have those locations sit vacant, I definitely would rather have those legal businesses there than nothing at all.
JMHO
Kate can speak to the issue better than I, but the folks on Edwards Avenue would prefer that the "Little League Beer Garden" site stay vacant.
This City Hall (as evidenced by O'Leary's failed $150,000 campaign) loves to brag about new development in Lakewood.
However, most of it is just more "bars and restaurants" that cannibalize our existing businesses.
Re: Nature’s Bin Constantino’s to Become Brewery
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:51 am
by Matthew Lee
Brad Presutto wrote:Did Scene magazine not consider Bottlehouse Brewery not a brewery?
Bottlehouse does not brew on premise. They brew in Cleveland Heights and bring it to Lakewood so the Lakewood location is, technically, not a brewery.