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Cleveland-A City Divided: The Legacy of Housing and Race
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:16 pm
by Christine Gordillo
The Lakewood High School History Club will be kicking off the 2017-2018 teacher/student lecture series on Sunday, September 24th at the Lakewood Public Library Auditorium at 7pm. The featured speakers will be Mr. Joe Lobozzo, facilitator of the LHS Social Studies Department, and senior Erika Hakko. Their presentation will include a history of Cleveland’s housing patterns, including the underlying political, social and economic factors.
The LHS History Club aspires to engage students, staff and the citizens of Lakewood in dialogue about the history of of town, region, nation and world. All presentations are created and delivered collaboratively by teachers and students. President Faiza Manaa and the entire club would like to invite anyone who is interested to join them at this and all other events. Hope to see you there!
Re: Cleveland-A City Divided: The Legacy of Housing and Race
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:34 pm
by Stan Austin
This is a controversial and, yet still essential topic to discuss. I commend those involved in raising this issue for a necessary, continuing discussion.
Re: Cleveland-A City Divided: The Legacy of Housing and Race
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:40 pm
by Bridget Conant
When will the presentation, Lakewood-A City Divided: The Legacy of Mayor Mike Summers be held?
Re: Cleveland-A City Divided: The Legacy of Housing and Race
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:59 pm
by Michael Deneen
LHS teacher/historian Chuck Greanoff is the faculty coordinator for the History Club.
They did a very nice Civil War presentation in the spring.....I'm sure this will also be outstanding.
Bridget Conant wrote:When will the presentation, Lakewood-A City Divided: The Legacy of Mayor Mike Summers be held?
The two subjects certainly overlap....but I suspect many of our city leaders would prefer no one talk about it.
Re: Cleveland-A City Divided: The Legacy of Housing and Race
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:03 pm
by Stan Austin
Hey-- let's let our LHS students give a shot at this without the rest of us kibitzing
Re: Cleveland-A City Divided: The Legacy of Housing and Race
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:51 pm
by Dan Alaimo
Stan Austin wrote:Hey-- let's let our LHS students give a shot at this without the rest of us kibitzing
Hey Stan, Kibitzing R Us.
I'm curious if they are going to cover the more subtle racism like basketball courts and real estate sales along with the more blatant forms that get so much publicity.
Re: Cleveland-A City Divided: The Legacy of Housing and Race
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 3:04 pm
by Matthew Lee
Dan Alaimo wrote:Stan Austin wrote:Hey-- let's let our LHS students give a shot at this without the rest of us kibitzing
Hey Stan, Kibitzing R Us.
I'm curious if they are going to cover the more subtle racism like basketball courts and real estate sales along with the more blatant forms that get so much publicity.
Hi Dan,
If you are curious, why don't you show up to the meeting? This is open to all.
I'm amazed that something that should be seen as important for high school students to openly discuss is turning into a "Mike Summers is bad" and "they should talk about basketball courts" discussion. The students should be commended for speaking about this out in the open, which is something many adults are reluctant to do.
Re: Cleveland-A City Divided: The Legacy of Housing and Race
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:09 pm
by Dan Alaimo
Matthew Lee wrote:Dan Alaimo wrote:Stan Austin wrote:Hey-- let's let our LHS students give a shot at this without the rest of us kibitzing
Hey Stan, Kibitzing R Us.
I'm curious if they are going to cover the more subtle racism like basketball courts and real estate sales along with the more blatant forms that get so much publicity.
Hi Dan,
If you are curious, why don't you show up to the meeting? This is open to all.
I'm amazed that something that should be seen as important for high school students to openly discuss is turning into a "Mike Summers is bad" and "they should talk about basketball courts" discussion. The students should be commended for speaking about this out in the open, which is something many adults are reluctant to do.
...and I do. I also think the Mike Summers reference (not mine) was unfortunate. It's just that so much of the race debate focuses on the highly publicized incidents, and not enough on what goes on quietly in many suburbs - and I would include most on the West Side.
I do want to try to get there, but Sundays at that hour can be difficult for me.
Re: Cleveland-A City Divided: The Legacy of Housing and Race
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:26 pm
by Matthew Lee
Dan Alaimo wrote:
...and I do. I also think the Mike Summers reference (not mine) was unfortunate. It's just that so much of the race debate focuses on the highly publicized incidents, and not enough on what goes on quietly in many suburbs - and I would include most on the West Side.
Hi Dan,
FYI, my bad for including any reference to you in the Mike Summers comment. I was just disappointed that this reference would come up with something so good that the High School group is doing. Totally understand if you cannot attend but glad the invite went out to everyone.
Cheers,
Matt
Re: Cleveland-A City Divided: The Legacy of Housing and Race
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:51 pm
by m buckley
Bridget Conant wrote:When will the presentation, Lakewood-A City Divided: The Legacy of Mayor Mike Summers be held?
Ms. Conant, That was a painfully funny line.
Lakewood is a city divided. Mike Summers is responsible for that divisiveness.
The idea that you somehow spoiled everything by pointing out something that permeates everything is nonsense.
Re: Cleveland-A City Divided: The Legacy of Housing and Race
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:36 pm
by Matthew Lee
m buckley wrote:Bridget Conant wrote:When will the presentation, Lakewood-A City Divided: The Legacy of Mayor Mike Summers be held?
Ms. Conant, That was a painfully funny line.
Lakewood is a city divided. Mike Summers is responsible for that divisiveness.
The idea that you somehow spoiled everything by pointing out something that permeates everything is nonsense.
Disagree. It is not nonsense. It is idiotic, in my opinion, to try to insert anything with the Mayor to what High School students are doing in a serious fashion. This is the problem with the Deck, IMHO. Surprised nobody has said "Solstice Steps" yet.
Re: Cleveland-A City Divided: The Legacy of Housing and Race
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:40 pm
by Jim O'Bryan
Matthew Lee wrote:m buckley wrote:Bridget Conant wrote:When will the presentation, Lakewood-A City Divided: The Legacy of Mayor Mike Summers be held?
Ms. Conant, That was a painfully funny line.
Lakewood is a city divided. Mike Summers is responsible for that divisiveness.
The idea that you somehow spoiled everything by pointing out something that permeates everything is nonsense.
Disagree. It is not nonsense. It is idiotic, in my opinion, to try to insert anything with the Mayor to what High School students are doing in a serious fashion. This is the problem with the Deck, IMHO. Surprised nobody has said "Solstice Steps" yet.
Matt
Not the Deck, the Deck tells no one what to do, but the individual posters who have names,
I have never understood this need to group individual people, speaking their minds. ZERO group think.
I also noticed with a smile, you brought up the Solstice Steps.

Going to blame that one on "the Deck?"
Be the change you want to...
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Re: Cleveland-A City Divided: The Legacy of Housing and Race
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:32 am
by Matthew Lee
Hi Jim,
No, that IS the problem with the Deck. Most people have been run off and the same six or seven people post over and over again. Somehow, even a nice thing like an announcement of a high school history discussion on race turned into a "we hate Mike Summers" thread.
Sorry if the truth hurts but the forum is a shell of what it once was and what it could be.
Matt
Re: Cleveland-A City Divided: The Legacy of Housing and Race
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:09 am
by Tim Liston
If the OP would post her Lakewood Schools announcements on the Schools & Education in Lakewood forum, they would not become polluted. Just a thought. Though I think the Deck would benefit from some light moderation. The constant "we hate City Hall" drumbeat that affects even unrelated threads does get annoying.
Re: Cleveland-A City Divided: The Legacy of Housing and Race
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:53 am
by Gary Rice
Amen and amen...
Back to the banjo!
