Re: Summers and Trump as Different as Red and Blue
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:02 pm
by Lori Allen _
Brian,
Good post. Thanks.
As a side note (this has been mentioned before), Summers did sell the business to what appears to be a company in Texas. However, he still owns the Summers Rubber building itself on Berea Rd., as well as the buildings of other Summers Rubber branch locations around the state. He has the buildings listed on his most recent financial disclosure form as "real property owned". The taxes for the buildings still go to Wilbert Rd. under Tiger Properties LTD. More on disclosure forms coming soon.
Getting back on track, Trump wants to deport criminals, Summers offers them positions at city hall. Trump believes in transparency and tells it like it is. Summers hides behind lies and by not releasing public records. Trump said that nobody will be denied medical care and will not die in the streets, Summers illegally sold our hospital to his best friends, CCF, for pennies on the dollar and gave the citizens of Lakewood a useless urgi-care,and then stuck his middle finger up to the Lakewood tax payers. Trump surrounds himself with intelligent persons, Summers surrounds himself with persons that say "aye" to his every whim and desire, even if it is morally or illegally wrong.Trump believes in saving the tax payers money, Summers just spends, spends, spends! ( this is just one of the many reasons why our city is broke! ) Trump believes in good paying jobs with good pay , Summers believes in low paying minimum wage jobs such as vape stores, vape lounges, bars and burner cell phones. Trump wants to clean up the wrong doings of the "establishment in D.C., such as kick backs, campaign contributions in exchange for favors, etc. Summers is the "establishment".
Re: Summers and Trump as Different as Red and Blue
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:55 pm
by Michael Deneen
Brian Essi wrote:Trump claims he wants to help people.
Anyone can "claim" anything. Summers "claims" that he's helping people, too.
Let's judge Trump by his actions....so far, indications are not positive.
Brian Essi wrote:Trump is an anti-establishment elected leader
His rhetoric is anti-establishment, but his actions are far different.
Stocking the Cabinet with billionaires is not "anti-establishment".
He's serving Goldman Sachs just as much (if not more) than Hillary would have. (Will they ask for a refund for all those speeches?....it turned out to be wasted money)
Brian Essi wrote:Trump says he wants to expel criminals from the country and wants to build a wall to keep criminals out of the country.
Again anyone can SAY anything.
Trump hired a cast of sordid characters (including the Neo-Nazi Bannon). The "Wall" is intended for "those people", regardless of whether they are criminals or not.
Tom Bullock, one of Summers inner circle, said he wanted to "protect our borders", too.
Lori Allen _ wrote:Trump believes in transparency and tells it like it is.
This comment is not accurate. He won't even release his tax records......and he certainly doesn't tell it like it is. Like Summers, he offers "alternative facts".
Lori Allen _ wrote:Trump wants to clean up the wrong doings of the "establishment in D.C., such as kick backs, campaign contributions in exchange for favors, etc.
Trump isn't "draining the swamp"....he's unleashing a new pack of alligators.
Re: Summers and Trump as Different as Red and Blue
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:17 pm
by Brian Essi
Michael Deneen wrote:Brian Essi wrote:Trump claims he wants to help people.
Anyone can "claim" anything. Summers "claims" that he's helping people, too.
Let's judge Trump by his actions....so far, indications are not positive.
Brian Essi wrote:Trump is an anti-establishment elected leader
His rhetoric is anti-establishment, but his actions are far different.
Stocking the Cabinet with billionaires is not "anti-establishment".
He's serving Goldman Sachs just as much (if not more) than Hillary would have. (Will they ask for a refund for all those speeches?....it turned out to be wasted money)
Brian Essi wrote:Trump says he wants to expel criminals from the country and wants to build a wall to keep criminals out of the country.
Again anyone can SAY anything.
Trump hired a cast of sordid characters (including the Neo-Nazi Bannon). The "Wall" is intended for "those people", regardless of whether they are criminals or not.
Tom Bullock, one of Summers inner circle, said he wanted to "protect our borders", too.
So we are in agreement that politicians can "say" anything, but they should be judged on their actions.
I certainly hope that "billionaires" are not pre-judged based upon the fact that they are "billionaires." George Soros?
As far as immigration reforms and "the border" are concerned, it seems to me that there has been bipartisan consensus that change is needed---the problem has been a consensus on
whatto do. Trump is the byproduct of bipartisan failures.
From media reports, it seems that the roll out of the Executive Order Friday was mishandled and is unfair to many folks trying to travel, but as of yesterday none of the 7 lawsuits actually challenged the legality of the order itself. I haven't had time to read the order, and have not seen the news "stories" of today. I would suspect that they have rounded up a bunch of unfortunate innocent people and there will be violins, tears and vigils spreading worldwide.
It troubles me though that people claiming to care about the plight of innocent Muslims, are now claiming there is a "Muslim Ban" that will somehow turn the terrorists against innocent US citizens by helping recruit terrorists.
Following this logic, if a "Muslim Ban" would actually help recruit terrorists, then those claiming that there is a "Muslim Ban" when there is in fact not one, might be causing damage to the safety of innocent US citizens and innocent Muslims. Like shouting "fire" in a crowded theater.
If we can believe the narratives of the media about the nut jobs who have committed terrorist acts against the US and other countries, there seems to be little evidence that they were "recruited" by the immigration policies of the countries they committed their crimes in. 911? SS Cole? France? Germany? Canada?
It seems to me that the perpetrators are not rational actors who think that way.
Anyway, back to this thread:
Trump said he likes to grab women by the....
Summers likes Cosgrove having Summers by the ......
Re: Summers and Trump as Different as Red and Blue
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:48 pm
by Brian Essi
Sorry, but there is no mention of Muslims at all in the executive order (full text below).
In fact, the countries with the largest Muslim populations are not covered by the order at all.
Here is President Obama in response to Trump's order: "The President fundamentally disagrees with the notion of discriminating against individuals because of their faith or religion," Mr. Obama's spokesman said in a statement that was the former president's first since leaving office.
Sorry, but Trump says in his order:"The United States cannot, and should not, admit those who do not support the Constitution, or those who would place violent ideologies over American law. The United States should not admit those who engage in acts of bigotry or hatred (including "honor" killings, other forms of violence against women, or the persecution of those who practice religions different from their own) or those who would oppress Americans of any race, gender, or sexual orientation."
So it is not a "Muslim Ban."
Back to the theme of this thread:
Trump made a swift, almost hasty decision to sign an order (below)
Summers took months and months toiling over a decision to allow chickens into Lakewood.
Trump Fast
Summers Slow
Very different.
Here is the full text of the order:
THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release
January 27, 2017
EXECUTIVE ORDER
- - - - - - -
PROTECTING THE NATION FROM FOREIGN TERRORIST ENTRY INTO THE UNITED STATES
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and laws of the United States of America, including the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), 8 U.S.C. 1101 et seq., and section 301 of title 3, United States Code, and to protect the American people from terrorist attacks by foreign nationals admitted to the United States, it is hereby ordered as follows:
Section 1. Purpose. The visa-issuance process plays a crucial role in detecting individuals with terrorist ties and stopping them from entering the United States. Perhaps in no instance was that more apparent than the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, when State Department policy prevented consular officers from properly scrutinizing the visa applications of several of the 19 foreign nationals who went on to murder nearly 3,000 Americans. And while the visa-issuance process was reviewed and amended after the September 11 attacks to better detect would-be terrorists from receiving visas, these measures did not stop attacks by foreign nationals who were admitted to the United States.
Numerous foreign-born individuals have been convicted or implicated in terrorism-related crimes since September 11, 2001, including foreign nationals who entered the United States after receiving visitor, student, or employment visas, or who entered through the United States refugee resettlement program. Deteriorating conditions in certain countries due to war, strife, disaster, and civil unrest increase the likelihood that terrorists will use any means possible to enter the United States. The United States must be vigilant during the visa-issuance process to ensure that those approved for admission do not intend to harm Americans and that they have no ties to terrorism.
In order to protect Americans, the United States must ensure that those admitted to this country do not bear hostile attitudes toward it and its founding principles. The United States cannot, and should not, admit those who do not support the Constitution, or those who would place violent ideologies over American law. In addition, the United States should not admit those who engage in acts of bigotry or hatred (including "honor" killings, other forms of violence against women, or the persecution of those who practice religions different from their own) or those who would oppress Americans of any race, gender, or sexual orientation.
Sec. 2. Policy. It is the policy of the United States to protect its citizens from foreign nationals who intend to commit terrorist attacks in the United States; and to prevent the admission of foreign nationals who intend to exploit United States immigration laws for malevolent purposes.
Sec. 3. Suspension of Issuance of Visas and Other Immigration Benefits to Nationals of Countries of Particular Concern. (a) The Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Director of National Intelligence, shall immediately conduct a review to determine the information needed from any country to adjudicate any visa, admission, or other benefit under the INA (adjudications) in order to determine that the individual seeking the benefit is who the individual claims to be and is not a security or public-safety threat.
(b) The Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Director of National Intelligence, shall submit to the President a report on the results of the review described in subsection (a) of this section, including the Secretary of Homeland Security's determination of the information needed for adjudications and a list of countries that do not provide adequate information, within 30 days of the date of this order. The Secretary of Homeland Security shall provide a copy of the report to the Secretary of State and the Director of National Intelligence.
(c) To temporarily reduce investigative burdens on relevant agencies during the review period described in subsection (a) of this section, to ensure the proper review and maximum utilization of available resources for the screening of foreign nationals, and to ensure that adequate standards are established to prevent infiltration by foreign terrorists or criminals, pursuant to section 212(f) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1182(f), I hereby proclaim that the immigrant and nonimmigrant entry into the United States of aliens from countries referred to in section 217(a)(12) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1187(a)(12), would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, and I hereby suspend entry into the United States, as immigrants and nonimmigrants, of such persons for 90 days from the date of this order (excluding those foreign nationals traveling on diplomatic visas, North Atlantic Treaty Organization visas, C-2 visas for travel to the United Nations, and G-1, G-2, G-3, and G-4 visas).
(d) Immediately upon receipt of the report described in subsection (b) of this section regarding the information needed for adjudications, the Secretary of State shall request all foreign governments that do not supply such information to start providing such information regarding their nationals within 60 days of notification.
(e) After the 60-day period described in subsection (d) of this section expires, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of State, shall submit to the President a list of countries recommended for inclusion on a Presidential proclamation that would prohibit the entry of foreign nationals (excluding those foreign nationals traveling on diplomatic visas, North Atlantic Treaty Organization visas, C-2 visas for travel to the United Nations, and G-1, G-2, G-3, and G-4 visas) from countries that do not provide the information requested pursuant to subsection (d) of this section until compliance occurs.
(f) At any point after submitting the list described in subsection (e) of this section, the Secretary of State or the Secretary of Homeland Security may submit to the President the names of any additional countries recommended for similar treatment.
(g) Notwithstanding a suspension pursuant to subsection (c) of this section or pursuant to a Presidential proclamation described in subsection (e) of this section, the Secretaries of State and Homeland Security may, on a case-by-case basis, and when in the national interest, issue visas or other immigration benefits to nationals of countries for which visas and benefits are otherwise blocked.
(h) The Secretaries of State and Homeland Security shall submit to the President a joint report on the progress in implementing this order within 30 days of the date of this order, a second report within 60 days of the date of this order, a third report within 90 days of the date of this order, and a fourth report within 120 days of the date of this order.
Sec. 4. Implementing Uniform Screening Standards for All Immigration Programs. (a) The Secretary of State, the Secretary of Homeland Security, the Director of National Intelligence, and the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation shall implement a program, as part of the adjudication process for immigration benefits, to identify individuals seeking to enter the United States on a fraudulent basis with the intent to cause harm, or who are at risk of causing harm subsequent to their admission. This program will include the development of a uniform screening standard and procedure, such as in-person interviews; a database of identity documents proffered by applicants to ensure that duplicate documents are not used by multiple applicants; amended application forms that include questions aimed at identifying fraudulent answers and malicious intent; a mechanism to ensure that the applicant is who the applicant claims to be; a process to evaluate the applicant's likelihood of becoming a positively contributing member of society and the applicant's ability to make contributions to the national interest; and a mechanism to assess whether or not the applicant has the intent to commit criminal or terrorist acts after entering the United States.
(b) The Secretary of Homeland Security, in conjunction with the Secretary of State, the Director of National Intelligence, and the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, shall submit to the President an initial report on the progress of this directive within 60 days of the date of this order, a second report within 100 days of the date of this order, and a third report within 200 days of the date of this order.
Sec. 5. Realignment of the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program for Fiscal Year 2017. (a) The Secretary of State shall suspend the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program (USRAP) for 120 days. During the 120-day period, the Secretary of State, in conjunction with the Secretary of Homeland Security and in consultation with the Director of National Intelligence, shall review the USRAP application and adjudication process to determine what additional procedures should be taken to ensure that those approved for refugee admission do not pose a threat to the security and welfare of the United States, and shall implement such additional procedures.
Refugee applicants who are already in the USRAP process may be admitted upon the initiation and completion of these revised procedures. Upon the date that is 120 days after the date of this order, the Secretary of State shall resume USRAP admissions only for nationals of countries for which the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Homeland Security, and the Director of National Intelligence have jointly determined that such additional procedures are adequate to ensure the security and welfare of the United States.
(b) Upon the resumption of USRAP admissions, the Secretary of State, in consultation with the Secretary of Homeland Security, is further directed to make changes, to the extent permitted by law, to prioritize refugee claims made by individuals on the basis of religious-based persecution, provided that the religion of the individual is a minority religion in the individual's country of nationality. Where necessary and appropriate, the Secretaries of State and Homeland Security shall recommend legislation to the President that would assist with such prioritization.
(c) Pursuant to section 212(f) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1182(f), I hereby proclaim that the entry of nationals of Syria as refugees is detrimental to the interests of the United States and thus suspend any such entry until such time as I have determined that sufficient changes have been made to the USRAP to ensure that admission of Syrian refugees is consistent with the national interest.
(d) Pursuant to section 212(f) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1182(f), I hereby proclaim that the entry of more than 50,000 refugees in fiscal year 2017 would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, and thus suspend any such entry until such time as I determine that additional admissions would be in the national interest.
(e) Notwithstanding the temporary suspension imposed pursuant to subsection (a) of this section, the Secretaries of State and Homeland Security may jointly determine to admit individuals to the United States as refugees on a case-by-case basis, in their discretion, but only so long as they determine that the admission of such individuals as refugees is in the national interest -- including when the person is a religious minority in his country of nationality facing religious persecution, when admitting the person would enable the United States to conform its conduct to a preexisting international agreement, or when the person is already in transit and denying admission would cause undue hardship -- and it would not pose a risk to the security or welfare of the United States.
(f) The Secretary of State shall submit to the President an initial report on the progress of the directive in subsection (b) of this section regarding prioritization of claims made by individuals on the basis of religious-based persecution within 100 days of the date of this order and shall submit a second report within 200 days of the date of this order.
(g) It is the policy of the executive branch that, to the extent permitted by law and as practicable, State and local jurisdictions be granted a role in the process of determining the placement or settlement in their jurisdictions of aliens eligible to be admitted to the United States as refugees. To that end, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall examine existing law to determine the extent to which, consistent with applicable law, State and local jurisdictions may have greater involvement in the process of determining the placement or resettlement of refugees in their jurisdictions, and shall devise a proposal to lawfully promote such involvement.
Sec. 6. Rescission of Exercise of Authority Relating to the Terrorism Grounds of Inadmissibility. The Secretaries of State and Homeland Security shall, in consultation with the Attorney General, consider rescinding the exercises of authority in section 212 of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1182, relating to the terrorism grounds of inadmissibility, as well as any related implementing memoranda.
Sec. 7. Expedited Completion of the Biometric Entry-Exit Tracking System. (a) The Secretary of Homeland Security shall expedite the completion and implementation of a biometric entry-exit tracking system for all travelers to the United States, as recommended by the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States.
(b) The Secretary of Homeland Security shall submit to the President periodic reports on the progress of the directive contained in subsection (a) of this section. The initial report shall be submitted within 100 days of the date of this order, a second report shall be submitted within 200 days of the date of this order, and a third report shall be submitted within 365 days of the date of this order. Further, the Secretary shall submit a report every 180 days thereafter until the system is fully deployed and operational.
Sec. 8. Visa Interview Security. (a) The Secretary of State shall immediately suspend the Visa Interview Waiver Program and ensure compliance with section 222 of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1222, which requires that all individuals seeking a nonimmigrant visa undergo an in-person interview, subject to specific statutory exceptions.
(b) To the extent permitted by law and subject to the availability of appropriations, the Secretary of State shall immediately expand the Consular Fellows Program, including by substantially increasing the number of Fellows, lengthening or making permanent the period of service, and making language training at the Foreign Service Institute available to Fellows for assignment to posts outside of their area of core linguistic ability, to ensure that non-immigrant visa-interview wait times are not unduly affected.
Sec. 9. Visa Validity Reciprocity. The Secretary of State shall review all nonimmigrant visa reciprocity agreements to ensure that they are, with respect to each visa classification, truly reciprocal insofar as practicable with respect to validity period and fees, as required by sections 221(c) and 281 of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1201(c) and 1351, and other treatment. If a country does not treat United States nationals seeking nonimmigrant visas in a reciprocal manner, the Secretary of State shall adjust the visa validity period, fee schedule, or other treatment to match the treatment of United States nationals by the foreign country, to the extent practicable.
Sec. 10. Transparency and Data Collection. (a) To be more transparent with the American people, and to more effectively implement policies and practices that serve the national interest, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Attorney General, shall, consistent with applicable law and national security, collect and make publicly available within 180 days, and every 180 days thereafter:
(i) information regarding the number of foreign nationals in the United States who have been charged with terrorism-related offenses while in the United States; convicted of terrorism-related offenses while in the United States; or removed from the United States based on terrorism-related activity, affiliation, or material support to a terrorism-related organization, or any other national security reasons since the date of this order or the last reporting period, whichever is later;
(ii) information regarding the number of foreign nationals in the United States who have been radicalized after entry into the United States and engaged in terrorism-related acts, or who have provided material support to terrorism-related organizations in countries that pose a threat to the United States, since the date of this order or the last reporting period, whichever is later; and
(iii) information regarding the number and types of acts of gender-based violence against women, including honor killings, in the United States by foreign nationals, since the date of this order or the last reporting period, whichever is later; and
(iv) any other information relevant to public safety and security as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security and the Attorney General, including information on the immigration status of foreign nationals charged with major offenses.
(b) The Secretary of State shall, within one year of the date of this order, provide a report on the estimated long-term costs of the USRAP at the Federal, State, and local levels.
Sec. 11. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:
(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or
(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.
(b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.
(c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.
DONALD J. TRUMP
THE WHITE HOUSE,
January 27, 2017.
Re: Summers and Trump as Different as Red and Blue
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:26 pm
by Kate McCarthy
I would agree that Trump and Summers are very different on many dimensions.
Trump looks like he will be giving Bill Cosby a run for his money in the ranks of alleged serial sexual predator. And Trump has two rape allegations against him. Summers, not that I've heard.
Trump stiffs contractors. Summers, not that I've heard.
Trump is mobbed up and receives fake awards (see Joey No Socks). Summers, not that I've heard.
Trump is most likely severely mentally ill. Summers, probably not.
And Trump's ban is a Muslim ban....as "to prioritize refugee claims made by individuals on the basis of religious-based persecution, provided that the religion of the individual is minority religion in the individual's country of nationality. " In the case of the identified countries this means non muslims. Period.
I think vast majority of human beings on the face of the earth would be hard pressed to match the absolute horror that is Donald Trump. He is, thankfully, one of a kind, and one of a kind that I hope our system of checks and balances puts into check very soon.
Re: Summers and Trump as Different as Red and Blue
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:38 am
by Brian Essi
Kate McCarthy wrote:
And Trump's ban is a Muslim ban....as "to prioritize refugee claims made by individuals on the basis of religious-based persecution, provided that the religion of the individual is minority religion in the individual's country of nationality. " In the case of the identified countries this means non muslims. Period.
I respect the differences of opinions and interpretations.
The full text of the part of the order you refer to is:
"4 (b) Upon the resumption of USRAP admissions, the Secretary of State, in consultation with the Secretary of Homeland Security, is further directed to make changes, to the extent permitted by law, to prioritize refugee claims made by individuals on the basis of religious-based persecution, provided that the religion of the individual is a minority religion in the individual's country of nationality. Where necessary and appropriate, the Secretaries of State and Homeland Security shall recommend legislation to the President that would assist with such prioritization."
First, this is a "prioritization"..."to the extent permitted by law." It is not an absolute ban and certainly not intended to be illegal, but I would agree it would be relatively negative for someone who has less "priority" than another. I have Syrian friends who could not get visas for their relatives to come here which they claimed was because of longstanding quotas/systems of prioritization before Trump's order.
Second, I had not considered the "religious-based persecution" interpretation you suggest. Here is my interpretation: if a Muslim refugee in one of the 7 countries was being persecuted by other Muslims in that country it would not necessarily be "on the basis of religious-based persecution." Rather, wouldn't it be political or some other kind of "persecution"?
Similarly, if a Sunni Muslim is being persecuted
because he is a Sunni by a Shiite Muslim in a country where Shiites are the majority, wouldn't the Sunni be a minority religion?
Again, I think the roll out of this order was botched, but when any rule is changed, some people will be hurt and some others may benefit. I am not a constitutional lawyer, but the way this order is worded, I don't see it as discriminatory against Muslims on its face.
How Trump & Co may enforce might be another matter---there are armies of motivated victims, lawyers, media reporters and ultimately courts to let us know how all that is going.
Re: Summers and Trump as Different as Red and Blue
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:51 am
by Robert Bobik
Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
If the ban were announced with a one week notice, the "bad" would rush into our country during that week. A lot of bad "dudes" out there!
8:31 AM - 30 Jan 2017
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"The same day, Spicer told a group of George Washington University students that “the ban deals with seven countries.”
Brian Essi, Please interpret the word "ban" as used in these examples. I take it to mean ban. I could be wrong though... You know as well as I do that Trump's base is not going to read the full executive order. So let's just go off of the statements made to the public, as perception becames reality in situations like this. Or should we just disregard statements made to the public from Spicer and Trump?
Thank you
Robert
Re: Summers and Trump as Different as Red and Blue
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:47 pm
by Brian Essi
Robert Bobik wrote:Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
If the ban were announced with a one week notice, the "bad" would rush into our country during that week. A lot of bad "dudes" out there!
8:31 AM - 30 Jan 2017
34,950 34,950 Retweets 165,017 165,017 likes
"The same day, Spicer told a group of George Washington University students that “the ban deals with seven countries.”
Brian Essi, Please interpret the word "ban" as used in these examples. I take it to mean ban. I could be wrong though... You know as well as I do that Trump's base is not going to read the full executive order. So let's just go off of the statements made to the public, as perception becames reality in situations like this. Or should we just disregard statements made to the public from Spicer and Trump?
Thank you
Robert
I agree--perception does become reality for many.
But perceptions do not turn the black and white of the law into the public perception--that is dangerous.
Perceptions also don't change hard facts about what people said and what they actually do.
Trump has said a lot of things that shocked people, but it seems many of those wild statements got him elected.
In this case, he did say in December of 2015 and even later in the campaign something about a ban in the context of Muslims (a real dumb thing to say in my opinion), but that's not what the letter of the order says.
People are tethering the older statements to the recent order---that may be fair in a political sense, but wrapping the two in a ribbon as an absolute factual statement that the order is a "Muslim" ban is a stretch in my opinion.
So I take issue with it being called a
Muslim ban.
So calling it the "Bad Dude Ban" would be more accurate.
If the new rules to be developed weed out some "bad dudes" and they are not permitted a visa and they turn out to be Purple, then it is not a Purple Ban.
It is still a BAD DUDE BAN.