The Observation Deck

Dan,

Can you include Councilman Anderson's post "LHA, not the Clinic, responsible for capital improvements and operating loses- READ the 1996 AGREEMENT." to the White Lighting forum?

Posted on Monday October 10, 2016 9:16pm.

Thanks,

Patrick Wadden

All posts from Anderson that counter any information and/or stats posted should be placed in White Lightning.

My understanding is that the White Lighting forum is, according to Mike Deneen "The new forum offers uncluttered access to the information -- no comments, no thread drift. "

I think councilman Anderson's post would be a nice addition to the facts forum.

Thanks,

Patrick Wadden

A rare sighting of Rossen and Wadden together!
Don't let Mr. Rossen or Mr. Wadden (or others on their team) distract you from the important work of getting out the message and the vote. VOTE AGAINST 64.

Not sure how the Deck feels about challenging their system. This way their one sided thread will not appear to be the propaganda that it is.

cmager wrote:A rare sighting of Rossen and Wadden together!
Don't let Mr. Rossen or Mr. Wadden (or others on their team) distract you from the important work of getting out the message and the vote. VOTE AGAINST 64.

Cmager,

It's a reasonable request and I am looking forward to Mr. Alaimo's response. I think Anderson's post should be included. If the gatekeeper, Mr. Alaimo, determines that Anderson's posts shouldn't be included then isn't that a little crazy. I don't want to get ahead of things as Mr Alaimo may decide to include the post to the White Lighting forum.

Pwadden

cmager wrote:A rare sighting of Rossen and Wadden together!
Don't let Mr. Rossen or Mr. Wadden (or others on their team) distract you from the important work of getting out the message and the vote. VOTE AGAINST 64.

Jim, stay out of this.

Mr. Rossen and Mr. Wadden, I trust you are performing this public service and search for "truth" on the other Lakewood news forums The Patch, The Lakewood Citizen, The Lakewood Buzz, The Cleveland Plain Dealer, and Lakewood Neighborhood News. And the Lakewood City Water Bill.

The Lakewood Observer tends to deal in facts.

In would appreciate an answer from Dan Alaimo. He may not answer until tomorrow which is fine.

Cmager, are you Bill Mager?

cmager wrote:A rare sighting of Rossen and Wadden together!
Don't let Mr. Rossen or Mr. Wadden (or others on their team) distract you from the important work of getting out the message and the vote. VOTE AGAINST 64.

Patrick, I did not know you had a dog in this race, what do you stand to gain, what do you stand for? Why would you want to strip healthcare and money from a city you have lived in all your life? It is not fair to all the people of Lakewood.

VOTE AGAINST 64 NOVEMBER 8th.

Patrick Wadden wrote:My understanding is that the White Lighting forum is, according to Mike Deneen "The new forum offers uncluttered access to the information -- no comments, no thread drift. "

I think councilman Anderson's post would be a nice addition to the facts forum.

Thanks,

Patrick Wadden

Patrick

Essi cannot post his stories into White Lightning. Why Anderson?

At the same time I have repeatedly helped both get into the paper, on the Deck, and together over coffee. Perhaps a debate with someone from City Hall and Essi.

From what I see they are working for different fact sheets. Figured for completely different reasons, Apples to Oranges.

Also, David and Brian can clear up any misconception I might have but from talking to them...
Essi knows it is a terrible deal, and thinks we can get more, potentially lots more.
Anderson knows it's a bad deal, but doesn't think there is any more to be gotten.

Essi is using the State of Ohio Auditor's report
David is using an "opinion" from Thompson Hine.

I would love to get Jen Pae's stuff in that section, it seems she has been singled out, and deserves fact checking.

But let's be honest, no person has worked harder and been more misunderstood than Brian Essi. I have good friends that have said many times, "I know they are facts, I know no one is knocking them down, but I hate the way he says it." People here are not striking down the facts he presents just attacking his way of saying them. Of course when you can't attack the facts you attack the messenger.

Hence the idea to see if distilling matters.

Let's find an accountant, maybe we can get Woody Calleri to run the numbers for us.

Let's get that section growing.

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Patrick Wadden wrote:In would appreciate an answer from Dan Alaimo. He may not answer until tomorrow which is fine. Cmager, are you Bill Mager?

Ladies and Gentlemen, I think we have a winner.

In celebration, I'm posting this clip one more time (unless there is popular demand to do so again). Just because it's so great. By the way, I did not kill Gus Fring.

You all know exactly who I am.

Thanks Jim. So you are saying that the post put up by Councilman Anderson on 10-10-2016 at 9:16 is not factual. Got it. You decided that or did Dan? You see the hypocrisy right? You must see it.

As always, I appreciate you and your publication. Thanks.

Regards,

Patrick Wadden
Lifelong Lakewoodite and real person.

Patrick Wadden wrote:Thanks Jim. So you are saying that the post put up by Councilman Anderson on 10-10-2016 at 9:16 is not factual. Got it.

Glad we are all in agreement on this Mr. Wadden.

Jim O'Bryan wrote:

Patrick Wadden wrote:My understanding is that the White Lighting forum is, according to Mike Deneen "The new forum offers uncluttered access to the information -- no comments, no thread drift. "

I think councilman Anderson's post would be a nice addition to the facts forum.

Thanks,

Patrick Wadden

Patrick

Essi cannot post his stories into White Lightning. Why Anderson?

At the same time I have repeatedly helped both get into the paper, on the Deck, and together over coffee. Perhaps a debate with someone from City Hall and Essi.

From what I see they are working for different fact sheets. Figured for completely different reasons, Apples to Oranges.

Also, David and Brian can clear up any misconception I might have but from talking to them...
Essi knows it is a terrible deal, and thinks we can get more, potentially lots more.
Anderson knows it's a bad deal, but doesn't think there is any more to be gotten.

Essi is using the State of Ohio Auditor's report
David is using an "opinion" from Thompson Hine.

I would love to get Jen Pae's stuff in that section, it seems she has been singled out, and deserves fact checking.

But let's be honest, no person has worked harder and been more misunderstood than Brian Essi. I have good friends that have said many times, "I know they are facts, I know no one is knocking them down, but I hate the way he says it." People here are not striking down the facts he presents just attacking his way of saying them. Of course when you can't attack the facts you attack the messenger.

Hence the idea to see if distilling matters.

Let's find an accountant, maybe we can get Woody Calleri to run the numbers for us.

Let's get that section growing.

.

What Jim said.