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No Beds at Fairview

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 3:45 pm
by Bridget Conant
It's already a problem. A dear friend of mine was to enter Fairview today for in patient chemo for relapsed cancer. Time is of the essence in the treatment of relapsed cancer as it is more aggressive and difficult to treat if it returns after the initial treatment.

They called her and told her they had no available beds. They will call her to come in when one is available.

Now, tell me again how great it is that Lakewood is closing. How we don't need those beds. How we will be healthier with one less hospital.

This delay may cost a life.

Re: No Beds at Fairview

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:17 pm
by Michael Deneen
Thanks for the update.
I've been hearing these stories....sadly, not a surprise.

Re: No Beds at Fairview

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:51 pm
by Stan Austin
Hey-- I got an idea of how to fix this--- Let's deregulate--- let the market decide. (Just be careful out there and don't trip)

Re: No Beds at Fairview

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:55 am
by Jim Kenny
Bridget: I hope your friend’s health returns soon and that her next treatment is effective. I’m disappointed that a bed in Fairview Hospital’s oncology ward isn’t currently available for her. Please take comfort, however, that her condition must not be critical as her physician is apparently comfortable with the delay.

I would be remiss to not point out that the availability of oncology beds at Fairview Hospital are in short supply, yet other beds and other wards remain open and available to serve anyone in need.

I also can’t ignore that as an oncology patient that your friend would not have been served at Lakewood Hospital if it had remained open. She would still need to tolerate the same inconvenience.

Re: No Beds at Fairview

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:32 am
by Jim O'Bryan
Jim Kenny wrote:Bridget: I hope your friend’s health returns soon and that her next treatment is effective. I’m disappointed that a bed in Fairview Hospital’s oncology ward isn’t currently available for her. Please take comfort, however, that her condition must not be critical as her physician is apparently comfortable with the delay.

I would be remiss to not point out that the availability of oncology beds at Fairview Hospital are in short supply, yet other beds and other wards remain open and available to serve anyone in need.

I also can’t ignore that as an oncology patient that your friend would not have been served at Lakewood Hospital if it had remained open. She would still need to tolerate the same inconvenience.

Jim

Good points.

The only time "out of beds matters is during emergency runs which adds to the turnaround time, as you cannot leave people in hallways, though Metro does from time to time.

I am sure if they need more beds at Fairview, they will add them. The Fairview Hospital is growing.

Kind of ironic eh?

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Re: No Beds at Fairview

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:14 pm
by Lori Allen _
As a patient, I was never impressed with Fairview Hospital. A person that does business with my family has a wife who is an RN and recently left Fairview. She claims that CCF is too cheap to adequately staff the ER, especially now with the overload of patients. She felt she could no longer work for an organization that does not give good care and could possibly be harming the patients.

A member of the family had cancer and was admitted to Fairview. One day I stopped in to visit and they were lying in bed, incoherent, sweating, moaning in pain and had labored breathing. They were also surrounded with melted ice bags. I went to the nurses station and asked them to page the doctor or resident on call. I was told that the doctor was in the hospital and that he would be making his rounds soon. I again asked for a doctor that could help immediately. The nurse confessed that the resident on call was not comfortable giving patients morphine. Really? On a cancer floor? I then took my cell phone out and started to film telling them that I wanted someone up there to help them immediately or I would take my story to the news and then call our attorney. They were taken care of in ten minutes and his breathing returned to normal.

Sadly, we lost our family member. Since then, some friends have had excellent help at University Hospitals Cancer Center. They do not promise a cure, but, the care is spectacular. A lot of great people who are kind compassionate, and most of all, attentive. If anyone knows someone that is having trouble with insurance and would like to go to UH, you can PM me. I have experience in medical management and would be happy to help, free of charge.

Re: No Beds at Fairview

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:20 pm
by Bridget Conant
Jim Kenny

Glad to see you are an expert on oncology and can make the call that my friend can wait. In fact, her doctor was livid.

But as usual, your response is misleading and manipulative, meant to continue the narrative you cling to so dearly. I notice you didn't mention that had the hospital remained open until September, when Avon opened, AS WE WERE PROMISED, perhaps this lack of beds would not be an issue.

I truly hope your family never experiences the types of medical emergencies or delays in care that many are now dealing with, and will continue to experience, all the while dealing with the realities of reduced availabilities of service due to the premature closing of the hospital.

Re: No Beds at Fairview

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:27 pm
by Lori Allen _
Bridget,
Tell your friend to go to University. I wish the best for your friend.

Re: No Beds at Fairview

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:27 pm
by Amy Martin
Jim Kenny is a pompous ass

Re: No Beds at Fairview

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:45 pm
by Bridget Conant
Amy

I had to reread his post several times to believe he actually wrote that claptrap. It ranks right up there with stating that those who objected to the hospital closing and spoke out about it were "a cancer."

And a few other doozies that I can't be bothered to quote.

Jim Kenny must live in a rarified world of light, luxury, and bubbles.

Re: No Beds at Fairview

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:04 pm
by Jim Kenny
Ladies: Jim O’Bryan clearly stated that he concurred with my "good points" contributed in this thread. Are you casting your aspersions at him too?

Please understand that I’ve been misquoted once again. My earlier reference to the cancer that exists on this forum was in reference to those who rely on name calling when a rational exchange of opinions and views would be more appropriate. Each of your recent responses in this thread are a clear demonstration that the disease persists.

Re: No Beds at Fairview

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:23 pm
by Jim O'Bryan
Jim Kenny wrote:Ladies: Jim O’Bryan clearly stated that he concurred with my "good points" contributed in this thread. Are you casting your aspersions at him too?

Please understand that I’ve been misquoted once again. My earlier reference to the cancer that exists on this forum was in reference to those who rely on name calling when a rational exchange of opinions and views would be more appropriate. Each of your recent responses in this thread are a clear demonstration that the disease persists.

Jim

Warning - Please do not put too much weight in me agreeing with anything.
People cast aspersions on me all the time, most don't know me, they mean nothing.

I am not a healthcare professional.

What I know of all of this, filled beds rarely would fall back to Lakewood, as in a good way. All the hospitals are so specialized, being in overflow could amount to a death sentence. Which has nothing to do if we needed or didn't need Lakewood Hospital. Where it hurts is in running out of ambulances which happened 16 minutes into the New Year, but luckily Rocky River covered, and was not directly related to any emergency room open or closed.

Responses are not diseases but insight into what people think, read and feel.
As I have stated, and there are "new features" coming. Until then are all defined by our words and actions.
Here on the Deck and in real life.

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Re: No Beds at Fairview

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:23 pm
by Brian Essi
Jim O'Bryan wrote:
Jim Kenny wrote:Bridget: I hope your friend’s health returns soon and that her next treatment is effective. I’m disappointed that a bed in Fairview Hospital’s oncology ward isn’t currently available for her. Please take comfort, however, that her condition must not be critical as her physician is apparently comfortable with the delay.

I would be remiss to not point out that the availability of oncology beds at Fairview Hospital are in short supply, yet other beds and other wards remain open and available to serve anyone in need.

I also can’t ignore that as an oncology patient that your friend would not have been served at Lakewood Hospital if it had remained open. She would still need to tolerate the same inconvenience.

Jim

Good points.

The only time "out of beds matters is during emergency runs which adds to the turnaround time, as you cannot leave people in hallways, though Metro does from time to time.

I am sure if they need more beds at Fairview, they will add them. The Fairview Hospital is growing.

Kind of ironic eh?

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Huh?

Hmmm

Let them eat cake!