a conversation of sorts with Shawn Juris
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 2:26 pm
Here's an exchange from that lengthy Nextdoor thread which is now approaching 200 posts. I'd like to see the Juris and/or Build participation I invite here, but I'm not optimistic.
Shawn Juris from Downtown Lakewood 4h ago
I wouldn't say we went with our gut. We looked at every angle and made a decision based on the realities of the situation. What we have now is a group of folks with questionable motives who are stating opinions as fact and presenting impractical solutions. I don't like analogies but here's one anyway. It's like a Browns fan who questions why they don't just pick the top 55 guys in the draft or convince all pros to play for free because they personally believe they are entitled to a winning team. Sure if you disregard reality the possibilities are endless. However the suggestions are fantasy and should not be taken seriously.
Dan Alaimo from Kauffman Park Just now
"a group of folks with questionable motives"
Who do you mean? I am a homeowner concerned that losing the hospital will negatively impact the value of my home. I am a taxpayer concerned that the loss of income tax revenues from hospital jobs will result in either a tax increase or service cuts. I am a potential user of local hospital services, and concerned that they will be gone. That describes most of those sympathetic to SLH.
I asked questions about the RPF process early on and received no answers (it isn't mentioned in the "frequently asked questions" that started this thread); later I found that "nobody else was interested" claim was not true because of the Metro offer. Also I am involved with a local park group and I'm concerned that the development fever will spread there - again. Are those questionable motives?
Does a nurse or doctor have questionable motives? Does an attorney married to a doctor have questionable motives? Does a Republican, Democrat or Independent have questionable motives? Or does someone in the employ of the City government have questionable motives? Are the only pure motives to be found on City Council? I'll say again, everybody has an interest, that's why this is such a hot topic.
I see numbers posted elsewhere that have not been directly addressed. You know where and what they are, and that you or someone else will have to go to the Deck to answer them. Since I have not studied the materials closely, I decline to present them - I'm not qualified. But I'd like to see a side-by-side comparison with the Build numbers, along with explanations.
I'm not unreasonable. I could have been convinced by the Build side early on, and still could be, but I see them consistently sidestepping the hard questions. Meantime, I intend to work for the referendum.
(I'm going to copy this and the previous comment over to the Deck to get feedback there.)
Shawn Juris from Downtown Lakewood 4h ago
I wouldn't say we went with our gut. We looked at every angle and made a decision based on the realities of the situation. What we have now is a group of folks with questionable motives who are stating opinions as fact and presenting impractical solutions. I don't like analogies but here's one anyway. It's like a Browns fan who questions why they don't just pick the top 55 guys in the draft or convince all pros to play for free because they personally believe they are entitled to a winning team. Sure if you disregard reality the possibilities are endless. However the suggestions are fantasy and should not be taken seriously.
Dan Alaimo from Kauffman Park Just now
"a group of folks with questionable motives"
Who do you mean? I am a homeowner concerned that losing the hospital will negatively impact the value of my home. I am a taxpayer concerned that the loss of income tax revenues from hospital jobs will result in either a tax increase or service cuts. I am a potential user of local hospital services, and concerned that they will be gone. That describes most of those sympathetic to SLH.
I asked questions about the RPF process early on and received no answers (it isn't mentioned in the "frequently asked questions" that started this thread); later I found that "nobody else was interested" claim was not true because of the Metro offer. Also I am involved with a local park group and I'm concerned that the development fever will spread there - again. Are those questionable motives?
Does a nurse or doctor have questionable motives? Does an attorney married to a doctor have questionable motives? Does a Republican, Democrat or Independent have questionable motives? Or does someone in the employ of the City government have questionable motives? Are the only pure motives to be found on City Council? I'll say again, everybody has an interest, that's why this is such a hot topic.
I see numbers posted elsewhere that have not been directly addressed. You know where and what they are, and that you or someone else will have to go to the Deck to answer them. Since I have not studied the materials closely, I decline to present them - I'm not qualified. But I'd like to see a side-by-side comparison with the Build numbers, along with explanations.
I'm not unreasonable. I could have been convinced by the Build side early on, and still could be, but I see them consistently sidestepping the hard questions. Meantime, I intend to work for the referendum.
(I'm going to copy this and the previous comment over to the Deck to get feedback there.)