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Winter thaw? Global warming?

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:29 pm
by Jim O'Bryan
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Sunset on the last of the ice on the southern shore of Lake George. Possible proof of global warming. The ice was melted by mid February. Lake George is located just east of Lakewood's Emerald Canyon. Lakewood, Ohio is often considered to be the Paris of Cleveland's Inner Ring Suburbs.

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The last ice along the southern shore of Lake George. The warm winter caused a quick thaw. Possible indication of global warming.


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global warming

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:48 pm
by jennifer scott
Hey, Thanks Al Gore! :lol:

Re: global warming

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:55 pm
by David Lay
jennifer scott wrote:Hey, Thanks Al Gore! :lol:
ha!

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:06 pm
by Jim DeVito
HA! Perfect time for this link.

City's To Turn Off Lights For One Hour Maybe Lakewood could take part?

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:10 pm
by Jim O'Bryan
Jim DeVito wrote:HA! Perfect time for this link.

City's To Turn Off Lights For One Hour Maybe Lakewood could take part?

Jim

As Lakewood is now considered by some to be, "The Paris(City of Lights) of Cleveland's Inner Ring Suburbs" that might work against the branding.

Although the photos above take me back to Scotland in the early spring. With the scrub coming right up to the edge of the lowland bogs.

FWIW


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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:23 pm
by Lynn Farris


Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:39 pm
by Jim O'Bryan
Lynn Farris wrote:But I do think innovation is the only viable solution to our problem. And a neat side enhancement of it - it may solve our economic and war woes too.
Lynn

Take my word for it.

It is too late.

I agree with Tim on this.

We have been on the back of the bell curve for oil for at least 6 years maybe longer. With the rapid increase in use, China, India, to name a few. The oil will run out so fast it will be startling.

One problem is that oil based fuels average about 98% efficiency. Coal I think is around 93%. The rest are in the 40% or so. So to build and maintain windmills, hybrids, batteries, solar panels etc. can't be done without oil!

Life, is about to change forever. Throw in the insurance nightmare, and we are about to enjoy the nice simple life of the 1880s.

It is too late.


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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:53 pm
by Lynn Farris
I don't disagree that the problem is serious. But the only solution is innovation. The conservation methods suggested are a drop in the bucket and ultimately inconsequential.

We would be far better off to spend the trillion dollars a year we are spending in Iraq in finding innovative solutions.

This is really what the post environmentalists are suggesting. A Manhattan style project to find new solutions.

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:54 pm
by Ivor Karabatkovic
Jim,

since you are the avid car collector, have you ever thought of a nice sailboat to sail upon Lake George with?

it could be a real getaway for you and Deb!

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:00 pm
by Jim O'Bryan
Ivor Karabatkovic wrote:Jim,

since you are the avid car collector, have you ever thought of a nice sailboat to sail upon Lake George with?

it could be a real getaway for you and Deb!

Ivor

Just having a couple houses on it is enough for us.

We are simple folks with simple needs and dreams.

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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:29 am
by Jim O'Bryan
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Aerial view of the lake. The massive crescent shaped lake is just east of the Emerald Canyon, which can be seen in this aerial photo. The canyon looks closer than it really is. Here it looks like it is only 40' away. the truth is closer to 55'.

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:04 pm
by Stan Austin
:? I cudda sworn that that's a view of your tree lawn in front of your house.

:lol: aerial view, my a**

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:44 am
by Jim O'Bryan
Stan Austin wrote::? I cudda sworn that that's a view of your tree lawn in front of your house.

:lol: aerial view, my a**
Stan

It is definetly an aerial view, and I told Ivor I already have two homes over looking the lake.


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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:29 am
by Joe Ott
I caught these guys this past Saturday enjoying the global warming.
I doubt today they are...
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