This morning I tried to find the hours for when the refuse facility on Berea Road accepts hazardous waste. Searched for hazardous waste...nothing. Tried a few other searches where I landed on press releases etc. No useful information. Then tried the A-Z Index .. which smugly states "In case you couldn't find what you were looking for?" and expanded "r", refuse? No, just registered contractors. I eventually landed on the department's page...can't recall how but it's in my browsing history...and it was more PR nonsense...no useful information.
Does anyone know who was hired to redesign the website and how much we the people spent on it?
Re: Redesigned OneLakewood.com
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:21 pm
by Brian Essi
I don't know, but I registered a complaint on the website, and I encourage anyone so inclined to do the same.
The new website is a disaster.
Re: Redesigned OneLakewood.com
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:26 pm
by Matthew Lee
Wow is that a bad website. It looks like they tried to bring things in from the old website but forgot a lot of items.
Try this:
* Search for "Trash" * Click on Read More under the "Residential Curbside Collection" section * Scroll down the Right Hand side and expand "Green Refuse and Recycling Initiative" * Now, the PDF does work and if you scroll down you can see the hours. * But, if you click on any of the other links, such as "Dropoff Facility" or "Refuse FAQ", you get a 404 error (meaning the link is not good). * Every single one of those links does not work. * And why didn't a search for refuse come back with the PDF, that is actually quite helpful.
Awful design and implementation.
Re: Redesigned OneLakewood.com
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:35 pm
by Ryan Salo
Matthew Lee wrote:Awful design and implementation.
Should be the Mayor's tagline for almost everything he has tried to get done.
Re: Redesigned OneLakewood.com
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:56 pm
by Michael Deneen
Ryan Salo wrote:Should be the Mayor's tagline for almost everything he has tried to get done.
Re: Redesigned OneLakewood.com
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:01 pm
by Brian Essi
Matthew Lee wrote:Wow is that a bad website. It looks like they tried to bring things in from the old website but forgot a lot of items.
Awful design and implementation.
What makes you think they "tried" and/or "forgot" rather than intentionally left things behind?
Re: Redesigned OneLakewood.com
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 3:06 am
by Matthew Lee
Brian Essi wrote:What makes you think they "tried" and/or "forgot" rather than intentionally left things behind?
Because I just don't see conspiracy theories everywhere. This strikes me as simply a really bad rip and replace from one web design software to another. I honestly don't think they sat around and said "Let's put links on the website that don't work". A true conspiracy would need to have no links at all.
Look, I know we are all fed up with city hall and a lot of what is going on with the hospital. But it doesn't mean everything is a conspiracy. This is just a really bad job done at a website change. Happens all the time in web site redesigns, unfortunately.
Re: Redesigned OneLakewood.com
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:07 am
by Jim O'Bryan
Matthew Lee wrote:Look, I know we are all fed up with city hall and a lot of what is going on with the hospital. But it doesn't mean everything is a conspiracy. This is just a really bad job done at a website change. Happens all the time in web site redesigns, unfortunately.
Matthew
As we all know I have a pretty low level for conspiracy think. Me personally I think two or more people planning can be a conspiracy to those left out of it.
Was this on purpose? Hard to say, it happened the week after Brian Essi was linking to articles no longer found, with links broken that proved there was a cover-up. But we must be sane adults and realize this has been months in the works.
No, my part of the conspiracy think, is that it was convenient, but not as convenient as hitting "the mid-June" date out there floated by the Mayor and others in "unveiling the closing of the hospital." Which the Clinic wanted to release in September, and the Mayor asked for a Mid-June release. That would have coincided with The Closing of the Hospital, the return of the Active Living Task Force, the announcement of a new Non-profit, the new plot of land, the announcement of the rec center/mixed use greenspace, and happen right after the filing date for running for mayor. I am sure I left a couple other things out of the mid-june date.
Not a bad coincidence ehh? I hope they played the lottery too!
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Re: Redesigned OneLakewood.com
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:55 am
by Jim O'Bryan
Matthew
PS- Even the "onelakewood" address was a scam. Ed FitzGerald used it for his campaign, then sold it to the City of Lakewood for their new web address.
Give somebody an inch and they'll take a mile.
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Re: Redesigned OneLakewood.com
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:06 am
by Bridget Conant
PS- Even the "onelakewood" address was a scam. Ed FitzGerald used it for his campaign, then sold it to the City of Lakewood for their new web address.
Give somebody an inch and they'll take a mile.
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I always wondered about that. Most cities have the more formal government "city.oh.us" domain.
Re: Redesigned OneLakewood.com
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:15 am
by Jim O'Bryan
Bridget Conant wrote:
PS- Even the "onelakewood" address was a scam. Ed FitzGerald used it for his campaign, then sold it to the City of Lakewood for their new web address.
Give somebody an inch and they'll take a mile.
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I always wondered about that. Most cities have the more formal government "city.oh.us" domain.
Bridget
A lot of cities are changing, to get with it! Of course most cities left their "government" address linked to their hip new address. But not Lakewood.
The system was devised so that anyone could get to the city hall directory on the fly. Want to check out a city "http://www.city.cleveland.oh.us/" Those days are simply fading away and City Halls get confused on what they are, and who they serve.
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Re: Redesigned OneLakewood.com
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:28 am
by Michael Deneen
I'm fine with the "onelakewood.com" address (although it's an ironic title given the divisive nature of its creators).
It's easy to remember.
I tend to agree with Matthew on this topic....I think it's incompetence moreso than strategy.
Re: Redesigned OneLakewood.com
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:50 am
by marklingm
Ryan Salo wrote:
Matthew Lee wrote:Awful design and implementation.
Should be the Mayor's tagline for almost everything he has tried to get done.
+1
If City Hall were a business, Mike Summers and his team would have been fired a long time ago.
Re: Redesigned OneLakewood.com
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:34 pm
by Jim O'Bryan
Matthew John Markling wrote:
Ryan Salo wrote:
Matthew Lee wrote:Awful design and implementation.
Should be the Mayor's tagline for almost everything he has tried to get done.
+1
If City Hall were a business, Mike Summers and his team would have been fired a long time ago.
How is that City Manager thingy looking now?
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Re: Redesigned OneLakewood.com
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:56 pm
by marklingm
Jim O'Bryan wrote:
Matthew John Markling wrote:
Ryan Salo wrote:
Matthew Lee wrote:Awful design and implementation.
Should be the Mayor's tagline for almost everything he has tried to get done.
+1
If City Hall were a business, Mike Summers and his team would have been fired a long time ago.
How is that City Manager thingy looking now?
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As much as I dislike Mike Summers, I am still against the city manager concept in Lakewood.
Elections have consequences.
If the voters of Lakewood want the City to be run by Mike Summers for four more years, they will get Summers for four years ... or ... until he steps down and hands the crown off to Kevin Butler.