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Is There A Market For A Summer Circulator

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:19 am
by Bill Call
Would a City run circulator make any economic sense during the Summer months? Would Lakewood residents be more likely to go the restaurants on Detroit if they could catch a bus?

They could run from 4 -11 PM. Round and round in circles all day down Lake from Belle to Sloane down Detroit and back down Belle to begin the process all over again.

Re: Is There A Market For A Summer Circulator

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:40 pm
by Peter Grossetti
An other option would be a fleet of bike-cabs!

City Council's Public Safety Committee will be discussing bike related-issues at their Monday, April 01, 2013 meeting ... 5:30 PM in the Jury Room of Lakewood City Hall, 12650 Detroit Avenue, Lakewood, Ohio.

From the agenda:

1) Communication and Resolution 07-13 To Define and Regulate the Operation of Bicycles (placed on 1st reading 3/18/13)

Why not show up and join the discussion. There IS time alloted for public comment!!!

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Re: Is There A Market For A Summer Circulator

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:37 pm
by Jim O'Bryan
Actually the LO is working on Bike Cabs for Detroit Avenue, based on the Downtown
idea of FREE rides.

FWIW


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Re: Is There A Market For A Summer Circulator

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:08 am
by Bill Call
Jim O'Bryan wrote:Actually the LO is working on Bike Cabs for Detroit Avenue, based on the Downtown
idea of FREE rides.


A son of a friend moved from Lakewood to Chicago five years ago or so. He was in town for a visit last weekend. As he drove down Detroit he said, "Lakewood is cool!." His mother pointed out that it "looked fun".

Detroit is looking good, attracting business and positive comments everwhere but the Plain Dealer. Street scapping can make a difference and that does include lighting. There is also a natural inclination for the under 35 crowd to prefer what is offered in Lakewood to what is offered in the outer burbs.

The City seems to be moving forward. The Mayor and council members, the business community and others all deserve credit.

All we need now is for someone to kick Forest City in the butt to get them moving on their Rockport project or to convince them to DONATE the land to the City. The donation would partially compensate the City for the damage done by the project.

Re: Is There A Market For A Summer Circulator

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:00 am
by marklingm
Jim O'Bryan wrote:Actually the LO is working on Bike Cabs for Detroit Avenue, based on the Downtown idea of FREE rides.

FWIW


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In the State of Ohio, your idea may work, Jim.

In the City of Lakewood ... maybe not ...

See
The Bike Lawyer.pdf
(76.84 KiB) Downloaded 108 times

from http://lakewoodobserver.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=11736.

Matt

Re: Is There A Market For A Summer Circulator

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:58 pm
by Bill Call
A blast from the past. :D

Re: Is There A Market For A Summer Circulator

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:31 am
by Jim O'Bryan
Matthew John Markling wrote:
Jim O'Bryan wrote:Actually the LO is working on Bike Cabs for Detroit Avenue, based on the Downtown idea of FREE rides.

FWIW


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In the State of Ohio, your idea may work, Jim.

In the City of Lakewood ... maybe not ...

See
The Bike Lawyer.pdf

from http://lakewoodobserver.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=11736.

Matt



Matt

Actually the City of Lakewood was not the issue, completely. Law Director Kevin Butler
was open to the idea, but wanted them on Madison and Detroit, not on side streets for
at least two years while it was studied.

The insurance was found, and was semi-reasonable, but the finances did not add up.

The way the cabs work, is sell advertising to cover everything, and "riders/drivers" work
for below minimum wage and tips, which add up. We were looking at a commitment of
about $40,000 in advertising a yer to make it work. We wanted a 2-3 year commitment
from those advertisers for stability. It never happened.

The "riders/drivers" also thought it would not be worth their effort not being able to take
people to their home with groceries, after dinner etc.. Where the "good tip" would be paid.

But City Hall was open to it, LakewoodAlive was open to it.

I suppose in a city that yells walkable at every opportunity that we should either drop that
and go with more damn buses, or work on better and wider sidewalks for walking. It is
the old 100 year old argument, walk or trollies.

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