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Juarez drug cartel leader ‘El Diego’ was captured with Fast
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:26 am
by Stephen Eisel
http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/01/univi ... s-weapons/How incompetent of the gov. to put together an operation with little or no thought on how these weapons would end up killing innocent human beings.. sad..
Re: Juarez drug cartel leader ‘El Diego’ was captured with F
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:08 pm
by Danielle Masters
I really hope that border agent Nicholas Ivie who was killed today in Arizona wasn't shot with one of the weapons from this operation gone bad. This whole case with fast and furious is outrageous. The fact that it has received such little coverage is just awful.
Re: Juarez drug cartel leader ‘El Diego’ was captured with F
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:27 pm
by ryan costa
most of the weapons used by Mexican gangs come from the United States. although most of those did not make their way there through the particular program of "Fast and Furious".
every type of bust that results from "Undercover" or "spy" type work involves enabling the criminal organization your are investigating to do more of its big criminal organization stuff.
Re: Juarez drug cartel leader ‘El Diego’ was captured with F
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 12:40 pm
by Stephen Eisel
ryan costa wrote:most of the weapons used by Mexican gangs come from the United States. although most of those did not make their way there through the particular program of "Fast and Furious".
every type of bust that results from "Undercover" or "spy" type work involves enabling the criminal organization your are investigating to do more of its big criminal organization stuff.
Wide Receiver - The number of guns used in the operation from the beginning until the end of the operation was 300. Fast & Furious - The number of guns used in the operation from the beginning until the end of the operation was 2,000.
Wide Receiver - Guns were traced with miniature GPS devices inserted inside the guns. Fast & Furious - No tracking devices were used.
Wide Receiver - ATF agents were ordered to follow the gun smugglers from the gun store to the US/Mexico border. Fast & Furious - ATF agents were ordered to stand down and not follow the gun smugglers after they left the gun store.
Wide Receiver - Mexican army and police was in the loop about Wide Receiver. They took over the surveillance of the gun smugglers after they crossed with the guns in Mexico. Fast & Furious - Mexican authorities were kept in the dark by the ATF and the US DOJ. They had no idea about Fast & Furious and the fact that guns provided to gun smugglers by the American authorities were "walked" in Mexico into the hands of drug cartel murderers.
Wide Receiver - When a small number of guns (30-40) were lost due to the malfunctioning GPS tracking devices operation Wide Receiver was immediately aborted and cancelled. Fast and Furious - Operation continued even after ATF and DOJ lost track of all 2,000 guns sold to Mexican drug cartels.
Re: Juarez drug cartel leader ‘El Diego’ was captured with F
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 12:48 pm
by Stephen Eisel
most of the weapons used by Mexican gangs come from the United States
http://frontpagemag.com/2011/ryan-mauro ... heir-arms/The Mexican government and the media have consistently blamed the U.S. for the vicious drug war in Mexico that has resulted in over 35,000 deaths since late 2006. A diplomatic cable released by Wikileaks will disappoint them, as it shows that 90 percent of the heavy weapons used by the drug cartels come from Central America. The strength of the drug cartels is more attributable to the Mexican government’s inefficiencies than America’s gun laws or consumption of narcotics.
Re: Juarez drug cartel leader ‘El Diego’ was captured with F
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:52 pm
by ryan costa
historically, most of the Mexican military works for at least one of the mexican drug cartels most of the time.
most of the guns used by the drug cartels are obtained commercially or through the commercial black market, having nothing to do with U.S. Sting Operations involving our government supplying them as part of Sting Operations.
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7654275-murder-city
Re: Juarez drug cartel leader ‘El Diego’ was captured with F
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:06 pm
by Stephen Eisel
ryan costa wrote:historically, most of the Mexican military works for at least one of the mexican drug cartels most of the time.
most of the guns used by the drug cartels are obtained commercially or through the commercial black market, having nothing to do with U.S. Sting Operations involving our government supplying them as part of Sting Operations.
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7654275-murder-city
Historically, most US Admins did not arm the mexican drug cartels..most of the time..