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Drug Mart looking to have its way with Grace and Cohassett

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 8:42 am
by Valerie Molinski
There is an informational meeting this evening that you can attend. It is at 6:00 in the auditorium at City Hall. This meeting is to talk about process, zoning and design requirements. They are also discussing the concept site plan and current elevations.

The project will start its formal process in front of the boards and commissions next month – that would be the time to weigh in on design. I am planning to voice my opinion on this one. This isn't my street, but I do live over on the east side.

The building design isn't a done deal yet (hasn't gone through the Arch Review Board) but my biggest issue is with the fact that they are taking down one house and an apartment building on Grace and Cohassett to build this. I am not opposed to the project itself, but I do not feel this is acceptable.

The city admits below that Grace and Cohassett are two of our most historic streets over here- so why are we letting Drug Mart carve it up and expand INTO the street even more? As Lakewood residents, we all understand what it means to live close to Detroit, which is a commercial corridor. But they are looking to rezone two residential parcels to expand Drug Mart's site into Grace and Cohassett. The apartment building they want to tear down looks to be in decent shape and it provides a good buffer from the commercial site to the rest of the street. The house they want to tear down, while currently abandoned, is not dilapidated. I realize that there are limited buyers for a property like this, but once it is gone, it will be gone forever.

Additionally, letting the site bleed further into two residential streets would affect very well maintained and VERY occupied houses on both streets. If I lived at those addresses, I would be very unhappy with this proposal.

Drug Mart wants to build a 25K sf building, and the parking plan as it stands is HUGE and ridiculous. They can scale back some of the parking and still fit on the site as it stands now. I think this would be a huge mistake on behalf of the city to give over these parcels and rezone for commercial. When will it end?

Discount Drug Mart is looking to expand its presence in the city.

The company — with its multi-million-dollar renovation already under way at Lakewood Plaza — has plans to move its eastern Lakewood location to the abandoned Ganley auto dealership at the corner of Cohassett and Detroit avenues.

Value World, a thrift store at W. 107th Street and Lorain Avenue in Cleveland, is considering a move into Drug Mart’s vacated location, according to officials.

The former auto dealership's showroom building would be demolished — along with an apartment building and vacant house at the rear of the property — to make way for a 24,000-square-foot Drug Mart, according to plans submitted to the city on Tuesday.

Plans call for a red brick structure, 92 parking spaces, a drive-thru, and green space that includes space for a bio-retention swale.

“That will take care of a significant piece of real estate that leaves only the Spitzer site,” said Lakewood Mayor Michael Summers.

But before ground is broken, there are a couple of hurdles ahead of the drug store chain.

The first is a proposal for a conditional use permit for a zoning change and a lot consolidation at the former Ganley site. The city’s planning commission will consider those motions on June 7.

And the following week, on June 14, the city’s architectural board of review will examine the company’s design plans.

Dru Siley, the city’s director of planning and development, said the drawings submitted Tuesday still need some refining.

“The initial building design is a good first pass, but it will need a lot of work before it can be approved,” he said. “This will have to look like a Lakewood building and not like a typical Drug Mart.”

Officials from Discount Drug Mart could not be reached for this story, but Siley said that the store is looking to compete as a grocery store — not as much as a pharmacy.

“The east end of Lakewood is, without a doubt, underserved for grocery store options,” he said.

This isn’t the only proposed development on the Ganley-owned property.

Earlier this year, Family Dollar was approved to build a store on the adjacent property across Grace Avenue.

Although a tenant for the current Drug Mart hasn’t been confirmed, Siley said that Value World “has been a part of that discussion.”

“I am encouraged to see interest in reusing the former Ganley dealership site,” he said. “The quality of the design is going to be as important here as it was for the CVS site, because Grace and Cohassett are two of our most historic residential streets.”
Siley said that early feedback has been positive from neighbors, who no longer want an abandoned building at the location.

The city — which has distributed fliers to residents throughout the neighborhood — is hosting a forum to address questions and concerns with the public at Lakewood City Hall at 6 p.m. tonight.


Re: Drug Mart looking to have its way with Grace and Cohass

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 8:49 am
by Valerie Molinski
I've attached the current site plan.

Re: Drug Mart looking to have its way with Grace and Cohass

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 9:02 am
by Myra Beckrest
My husband and I should have purchased a home on Cohassett last year... we didn't, and still regret it, however...

I just told him about this, and he was just disgusted.

Why on Earth would the city allow them to tear down ANYTHING on Clarence, Cohassett, or Grace. Those are three of the most beautiful streets this side of Detroit.

I thought that Drug Mart was looking to the old Giant Eagle in Cleveland? Do they really need ANOTHER Drug Mart in Lakewood? Wouldn't it make more sense to just tear down and rebuild on the current location?

Re: Drug Mart looking to have its way with Grace and Cohass

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 9:40 am
by Bill Call
Valerie Molinski wrote:The building design isn't a done deal yet (hasn't gone through the Arch Review Board) but my biggest issue is with the fact that they are taking down one house and an apartment building on Grace and Cohassett to build this. I am not opposed to the project itself, but I do not feel this is acceptable.



Now that the East entrance to Downtown Lakewood will be a gas station and the West entrance will be a McDonalds any hope of value added development along Detroit is dead. There was a small window of opportunity for something better but City officials chose to sit on their hands and let the opportunity pass us by.

The most likely use of the vacant lots on Detroit is for Dollar Stores and low income housing. It didn't have to be that way.

Re: Drug Mart looking to have its way with Grace and Cohass

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 9:55 am
by Myra Beckrest
I was looking through historical pictures of Lakewood, and it would appear that the east end of Lakewood on Detroit used to be filled with beautiful homes.

I really hope that adding Value World and more Drug Marts along with Mega-giant gas stations isn't how Lakewood hopes to revitalize the east end.

As someone looking to buy a home here, my husband and I are starting to ask each other not which homes we like, but which business would we be able to stand to have at the end of the street ~ how would that impact us, etc.

That's kinda sad. I never used to look at it that way.

Re: Drug Mart looking to have its way with Grace and Cohass

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 11:17 am
by J Hrlec
Valerie Molinski wrote:There is an informational meeting this evening that you can attend. It is at 6:00 in the auditorium at City Hall. This meeting is to talk about process, zoning and design requirements. They are also discussing the concept site plan and current elevations.

The project will start its formal process in front of the boards and commissions next month – that would be the time to weigh in on design. I am planning to voice my opinion on this one. This isn't my street, but I do live over on the east side.

The building design isn't a done deal yet (hasn't gone through the Arch Review Board) but my biggest issue is with the fact that they are taking down one house and an apartment building on Grace and Cohassett to build this. I am not opposed to the project itself, but I do not feel this is acceptable.

The city admits below that Grace and Cohassett are two of our most historic streets over here- so why are we letting Drug Mart carve it up and expand INTO the street even more? As Lakewood residents, we all understand what it means to live close to Detroit, which is a commercial corridor. But they are looking to rezone two residential parcels to expand Drug Mart's site into Grace and Cohassett. The apartment building they want to tear down looks to be in decent shape and it provides a good buffer from the commercial site to the rest of the street. The house they want to tear down, while currently abandoned, is not dilapidated. I realize that there are limited buyers for a property like this, but once it is gone, it will be gone forever.

Additionally, letting the site bleed further into two residential streets would affect very well maintained and VERY occupied houses on both streets. If I lived at those addresses, I would be very unhappy with this proposal.

Drug Mart wants to build a 25K sf building, and the parking plan as it stands is HUGE and ridiculous. They can scale back some of the parking and still fit on the site as it stands now. I think this would be a huge mistake on behalf of the city to give over these parcels and rezone for commercial. When will it end?

Discount Drug Mart is looking to expand its presence in the city.

The company — with its multi-million-dollar renovation already under way at Lakewood Plaza — has plans to move its eastern Lakewood location to the abandoned Ganley auto dealership at the corner of Cohassett and Detroit avenues.

Value World, a thrift store at W. 107th Street and Lorain Avenue in Cleveland, is considering a move into Drug Mart’s vacated location, according to officials.

The former auto dealership's showroom building would be demolished — along with an apartment building and vacant house at the rear of the property — to make way for a 24,000-square-foot Drug Mart, according to plans submitted to the city on Tuesday.

Plans call for a red brick structure, 92 parking spaces, a drive-thru, and green space that includes space for a bio-retention swale.

“That will take care of a significant piece of real estate that leaves only the Spitzer site,” said Lakewood Mayor Michael Summers.

But before ground is broken, there are a couple of hurdles ahead of the drug store chain.

The first is a proposal for a conditional use permit for a zoning change and a lot consolidation at the former Ganley site. The city’s planning commission will consider those motions on June 7.

And the following week, on June 14, the city’s architectural board of review will examine the company’s design plans.

Dru Siley, the city’s director of planning and development, said the drawings submitted Tuesday still need some refining.

“The initial building design is a good first pass, but it will need a lot of work before it can be approved,” he said. “This will have to look like a Lakewood building and not like a typical Drug Mart.”

Officials from Discount Drug Mart could not be reached for this story, but Siley said that the store is looking to compete as a grocery store — not as much as a pharmacy.

“The east end of Lakewood is, without a doubt, underserved for grocery store options,” he said.

This isn’t the only proposed development on the Ganley-owned property.

Earlier this year, Family Dollar was approved to build a store on the adjacent property across Grace Avenue.

Although a tenant for the current Drug Mart hasn’t been confirmed, Siley said that Value World “has been a part of that discussion.”

“I am encouraged to see interest in reusing the former Ganley dealership site,” he said. “The quality of the design is going to be as important here as it was for the CVS site, because Grace and Cohassett are two of our most historic residential streets.”
Siley said that early feedback has been positive from neighbors, who no longer want an abandoned building at the location.

The city — which has distributed fliers to residents throughout the neighborhood — is hosting a forum to address questions and concerns with the public at Lakewood City Hall at 6 p.m. tonight.



Does anyone know... are the house and apartment mentioned below city owned or did the owner(s) of the house and /or apartment looking to sell them?

Re: Drug Mart looking to have its way with Grace and Cohass

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 11:59 am
by Myra Beckrest
J Hrlec wrote:Does anyone know... are the house and apartment mentioned below city owned or did the owner(s) of the house and /or apartment looking to sell them?


According to the county auditor's website, the apartment building on Grace (if that is indeed the one they are looking to bring down) is owned by ISOMER GROUP INC, it was purchased last fall.

The house next to it, again, if that's the intended house to bring down, is privately owned.

Re: Drug Mart looking to have its way with Grace and Cohass

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 12:30 pm
by Grace O'Malley
Why does my gut tell me its already a "done deal?"

And Value World moving in in that area? Geez, if you though the clientele at that Drug Mart was bad, wait til you see the crowd at Value World. I mean, I shop Value World - it definitely attracts a lower element.

Re: Drug Mart looking to have its way with Grace and Cohass

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 12:31 pm
by Valerie Molinski
Myra Beckrest wrote:As someone looking to buy a home here, my husband and I are starting to ask each other not which homes we like, but which business would we be able to stand to have at the end of the street ~ how would that impact us, etc.

That's kinda sad. I never used to look at it that way.



This is my issue with the proposed plans. It's going to make a lot of current residents angry because of its encroachment into the residential streets. And it's going to make prospective buyers in Lakewood in general really gun shy to want to invest in a house even 3-4 houses in from the major streets because with some zoning changes, even that isn't a guaranteed future buffer.

Re: Drug Mart looking to have its way with Grace and Cohass

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 12:36 pm
by Valerie Molinski
Two of my favorite houses on Grace will now be looking right at this. Though, I think that the houses on Cohassett might have the worse end of the deal as far as site encroachment and views. These two houses are very well maintained on the outside as well. Are we going to chase residents like these out of Lakewood?

Re: Drug Mart looking to have its way with Grace and Cohass

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 12:41 pm
by Valerie Molinski
Forgot one. This is the house that is going down as well on Grace, next to the apt building. The blue hosue beyond is also very nice and well maintained like the ones across the street. So, two lots in on Grace would be rezoned:

Re: Drug Mart looking to have its way with Grace and Cohass

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 1:10 pm
by Peter Grossetti
"lower element?" WOW, where is the "compassionate element" in the Lakewood that I know and love?

I was born and raised Catholic, but today profess no one particular religious philosophy/view ... however I DO reverently remember and adhere to the intent of Matthew 25:40 - "Whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers; That you do unto me." This should be a universally human tenet.

Re: Drug Mart looking to have its way with Grace and Cohass

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 1:35 pm
by Grace O'Malley
Oh please, go to the Value World on Lorain and sit there for an hour observing. I'm not being judgmental -I go there weekly and have no problem mingling with the masses. However, it's not the same "masses" you'll see at Crocker Park - in fact, I should write a book about some of the characters. How about the woman on her cell phone screaming at her kid, with language I cannot repeat, then threatening to "stab his a$$" when she got home. Or the old guy who has a diamond ring to sell me at a really good price. He must never sell it because he still has it. Or the woman who walks down the aisle with urine streaming down her leg?

I'm just being brutally honest. Those thrift stores attract people that are not always socially acceptable. Of course, you can find people like that at the Lakewood Library, or so I hear, but if you are intent on gentrifying an area, Value World won't do it.

Re: Drug Mart looking to have its way with Grace and Cohass

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 8:17 pm
by Meg Ostrowski
Valerie Molinski wrote:I think this would be a huge mistake on behalf of the city to give over these parcels and rezone for commercial. When will it end?


Perhaps when we stop thinking we need a product or drug for every aspect of normal human existence.

Re: Drug Mart looking to have its way with Grace and Cohass

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 8:51 pm
by Kate McCarthy
How do residential properties get flipped to commercial? On my street we have a monstrosity out of variance but it's been there for a quite a while...who knows what variances allowed it to be. And a house is under threat for commercial development, which I do not understand since that lot is zoned residential. Is zoning in Lakewood worthless?