Elections...

Colleen Wing · Post by **Colleen Wing** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:00 pm

5 pages later and no where near where this thread started is also a reason why I don't feel it is the best use of my time to post.

Look, the question was asked (and not for the first time) why R's don't submit. I am telling you why I haven't invested time into it and you are telling me that it is a BS reason, so here we are. See you in three months.

Along the lines of frustration, I find it fascinating that declaring a Party in this "experiment" automatically surrenders all ability to free thinking. Now that is BS. That is like saying you buy your shoes at a shoe store instead of at Target because you become to confused and leave in your bare feet.

I love living in Lakewood. I choose to live in Lakewood. I was politically active long before I ever moved here. If I wanted to make my life easy I could have lived in Westlake and could have taken more naps. The only role partisan politics plays in city government from my perspective is- How much of a role do you think government should play in your life? I would have a very difficult time ever running for City Council because of my involvement in the Republican Party and I will guarantee you I have a better grasp on city issues than most of the people that will be running this year.

Let's get real. In the last city election our voter turn out was 24-19%. ????Doesn't this bother anyone else?

I choose to be active in the Republican Party because the belief of the party on economic issues fall into line with what I believe. It is the venue I choose to recruit, elect, and retain, people who share those beliefs. I have been called Hillary and Mrs. Pat Buchanan all in the same day. If you think that is going to make me take my marbles and go home, you are sadly mistaken.

I think the LO shouldn't or won't cover politics during this next election because you all will be fightn' with family. I feel your pain- I have been doing it for years. When your party isn't necessary doing what you think is best but you don't want to fight in front of the children and leave your self open to others swooping in.

All I care about is make Lakewood the best it can be, no matter who can do that. I think the LO has an obligation to cover these issue. Government doesn't run its self. I want to know who has answers to the issues we are facing and with the LO successful distribution, more people may take notice and get involved.

Think about it.

Gary Rice · Post by **Gary Rice** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:05 pm

Colleen,

Have you considered running for office?

Jim O'Bryan · Post by **Jim O'Bryan** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:06 pm

Colleen Wing wrote:5 pages later and no where near where this thread started is also a reason why I don't feel it is the best use of my time to post.

Colleen

You are always welcomed to post or write. You do not need to commit to anything publicly.

This weekend I had the pleasure of speaking with Ryan Patrick Demro, who knows how hard I have tried to get the right represented. He has assured me he has a person that will write and represent the Republican side of issues very well.

Tuesday I will once again speak with my good friend and Kiwainian brother Tex Phillips about writing. We both know he is a good ol' Republican with lots to say.

My frustration came from people that know how the paper works acting as if they did not.

Rest assured, the paper will not take a stand, and we will continue to post and print what is sent in. I have been assured by most of the city, they do not want to read my views in print. The Deck is more than enough already. :wink:

Thanks for your time.

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Colleen Wing · Post by **Colleen Wing** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:30 pm

Jim,

I forgot to address my Dennis comment, that is a humorous issue for me and that is how I meant it, but not how I stated it. I told you before you would have to explain your "unnatural affection toward him" to me over some beers. It was not an attack, so I am sorry about that. I would be facinated to hear about that side of him.

Jim O'Bryan · Post by **Jim O'Bryan** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:41 pm

Colleen Wing wrote:Jim,

I forgot to address my Dennis comment, that is a humorous issue for me and that is how I meant it, but not how I stated it. I told you before you would have to explain your "unnatural affection toward him" to me over some beers. It was not an attack, so I am sorry about that. I would be facinated to hear about that side of him.

Colleen

No problem.

I am just getting a little sensitve when my friends are attacked for being my friends. Of course you did not do that but during the second trial of the LO and myself, it was wearing a little thin.

Thanks for the clarification. I am a scotch guy, gin in summer, but would be happy to talk about it, anytime.

Made the edit I indicated I would after getting your note.

Jim

Gary Rice · Post by **Gary Rice** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:10 pm

Cue the banjo!

"Kumbayah......."

By the way, I think the world of Tex Phillips.

We go way back!

Jim O'Bryan · Post by **Jim O'Bryan** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:26 pm

Gary Rice wrote:Cue the banjo!

"Kumbayah......."

By the way, I think the world of Tex Phillips.

We go way back!

Gary

As the Jesuit warrior Mr Warren put it.

The Masonic bloodline runs deep through the three of us.

Thank you magic man of the 'wood.

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Jeff Endress · Post by **Jeff Endress** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:52 pm

I think the LO has an obligation to cover these issue.

Let's review.....again.

There is no staff, beyond voluteers, who pretty much write what they want, or edit what is written.
There are no stringers.
There are no assignments.
There is no faciity for making assignments, nor person to whom assignments can be made.

The Observer is a group of volunteers whose interest is what any one of those volunteers may be interested in.

If indeed, there is such an obligation, we'd love to hear any suggestions on how, given the above parameters, we might discharge that obligation.

Jeff

Justine Cooper · Post by **Justine Cooper** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:05 pm

The reason five pages later it is "off thread" is because people feel the need to jump in and defend what appears to be attacks. Some do it with praise, some do it with humor, some call for peace, but it would seem the personal attacks are what is fraying the thread. The anger jumps off the screen, and like in any situation with anger, the real subject becomes long gone.

Danielle Masters · Post by **Danielle Masters** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:15 pm

I think part of the reason for Colleen's "anger" is that she has submitted stories. I am sure it was before the member center so there probably isn't a record. I can only imagine that she feels what it the point. If you submit something or for that matter two somethings and neither are published it would seem like a big waste of time. So before anyone attacks Colleen try to look at it from her point of view. To get back to the original purpose of this thread, I think the LO should NOT take sides. It pits neighbors against one another and that just not very neighborly.

dl meckes · Post by **dl meckes** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:32 pm

Danielle-

It was because things went missing that the Member Center was created. It is still being refined to make things easier.

The Member Center, for all its flaws, is an amazing piece of software that follows everything submitted from the time a writer hits the final submit button to the time the article is posted to the web. That includes a lot of steps.

Of course it is frustrating when your hard work is lost. That's why we went to such great lengths to stop that, and in the meantime, invented a software program that is a really unique property.

But you bring home the reality of a problem we have all been working to solve throughout the life of the Observer.

Colleen Wing · Post by **Colleen Wing** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:33 pm

I am harnessing my "anger".

Calling all R's- I am hereby ordering all Republicans to submit articles to the LO so they appear to be balanced.

That sounds as asinine in writing as it would out loud.

I thought we worked all this out by 5:00. We were banjoing and kumbiaing. Let it go people.

Justine Cooper · Post by **Justine Cooper** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:37 pm

Danielle,

If you are implying that I attacked Colleen then I must have missed it. I think most are just tired of attacks, which was my point, and of anger generated from a thread that is put out there to ask people their opinion, both sides, all side. I have had articles lost too, through no one's fault, and it is frustrating, but the point didn't seem to be the article.

Jim asked what people wanted and it sounded like all sides wanted the paper to talk about issues, not back a candidate. Wasn't that the original thread before it became something else?

Gary Rice · Post by **Gary Rice** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:54 pm

I'm with Colleen here,

It's past 5:00. Let it rest.

We're all friends, or certainly would be, if we knew each other better.

When's that bowling date. Jim?

By the way, even your resident banjo player; (a long-time former Republican, and fairly recent Democrat- and official Ted Strickland banjo player, by the way...)

...has lost several columns into the black hole of the Observer's submission process.

I am better with my submissions now, and the Observer seems better at getting them.

HINT:

DON'T WRITE THEM FIRST ON THE SUBMISSION PAGE.

IF YOU VALUE YOUR WORK, WRITE THEM FIRST WITH YOUR WORD PROGRAM, THEN COPY/PASTE THEM ONTO YOUR SUBMISSION PAGE.

That way they won't be lost for you.

Whether my missing columns disappeared into the grassy knoll, or were beamed up at Roswell, or Groundparrot Gilligan chewed them up, or they ended up sopping up the leaking urinal at the Womens' Pavillion, I know not.

But I was a Democrat, and it happened to me too.

We have a great paper, a great city, with great people.

Good to know you all!

Now, for "Kumbayah", verse 2.

Justine Cooper · Post by **Justine Cooper** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:01 pm

OK I am going to rest Gary, with my red wine and meditation. I have lost a few to the black hole too and now save all mine on Word.

Danielle,
Does this mean you changed your mind on being my co-leader for the scouts??? Let's show us red and blue can work together. If my parents never discussed politics for 40 some years, I am sure you and I can do it for two hours a month! I welcome your energy.