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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:46 pm
by Brian Pedaci
Actually, even funnier than Janeane Garofalo's unhinged ranting (although that's just sad, really), is the idea of a group in Topeka, KS "focused on securing U.S. borders and coastal boundaries against unlawful entry." Guess they consider themselves the last line of defense, seeing as how they're about as far away from any border as you can get in the US.

Anyway, I just can't argue with Sharon's logic. Somewhere in the US, a racist went to a protest, so everyone who went to those protests are racist. Some of those 'racists' post on the Deck, where Sharon spends a good deal of time. Guess that makes Sharon racist, too.

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:27 pm
by sharon kinsella
Congratulations Brian - You are the first to name call.

Are you twelve? I was pointing out that the tea parties were racist, I never said any individual was racist and I won't. I do think that people get judged by the people they associate with.

I think that you, Bret and Charlie should take it on the road, its quite a littlle act you boys have.

I met with Bret one on one and found him impossible to deal with.

I don't know why I bother except for the fact that I won't let every single thing that I view as vile go by without comment.

By the way, did any of you scroll all the way down the Minutemen page and see the little box ad they had for the Tea Party?

Do any of you know how groups like them operate? Have any of you followed these losers for any length of time? Have any of you ifiltrated any of these groups, taken part in counter protests, or do you think they are harmless?

Have you ever heard Billy Holliday's song "Strange Fruit"? Do you think it's about apples?

Oh, I forgot, no matter what I say all three if you want me to quote books or articles that you approve of.

Have a nice life boys.

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:28 pm
by Bret Callentine
Are you twelve? I was pointing out that the tea parties were racist, I never said any individual was racist and I won't.


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So the people aren't racist, it's the event!!

Is it the name? lets see... tea? party? maybe there's a subliminal reference to earl grey or lemon lift that has some bad connotations.

Is it the location? Mall C... Mall? C? maybe the use of Mall C stands for some slight of third world countries.

Nope, I'm still not seeing it.

Anybody have the Best of Billie Holliday on 8 track? No wait, I need it in LP version so I can play it backwards to find out who REALLY killed Mary Jo Kopechne.

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:51 pm
by Dustin James
sharon kinsella wrote:Congratulations Brian - You are the first to name call.

Are you twelve? I was pointing out that the tea parties were racist, I never said any individual was racist and I won't. I do think that people get judged by the people they associate with.



I'm sorry, I feel like Michael Valentine Smith dropping into a strange land. Haven't been to the deck in a while, and sorry to intrude on the incredible swings of innuendo and down right accusations. I definitely do not Grok what the hell is the matter with protesting? Jeeez, I grew up around anti-war protesting. Now you need a permit from the those that aren't? Yeah right.

I did not attend any tea parties, because like many, my work schedule under the current economy is a little inflexible. I did however paint my own understanding of what I thought they were about. No flyers came to my home explaining that they were in fact, racist gatherings for black president haters. Like all Obama supporters are communists? Come on folks.

My honest take was that a bunch of people heard about getting together (tail gaiting comes to mind) and thought that these were similar people that were concerned with the new administration obfuscating an economic crisis, into an excuse to shoe-horn in every social pay back program they owed to their supporters - and oh by the way, maybe some stimulas for the economy.

$8 hundred billion is beyond the comprehension of most people on the street. That is 800,000 stacks of one million dollars - which of each million, is 1000 stacks of $1000. Imagine what that looks like in say the middle of Jakes Stadium. And it sounds great for those who are sick of the fat cats and the "man" running everything. Gotta admit, it's catchy. Power to the people. Or spread the poverty when the "man" moves to another country where they still dig capitalism.

It may not be taxes now, but it will be when the invoice comes.

We do not have the money --and will not have the money, probably ever. Please tell me where it will come from other than taxes. Enormous taxes. You don't have to tell me it's simple math.

Has anybody noticed a COMPLETE and utter silence regarding Social Security? It is never mentioned. Why? Because if the boomers get wind that they have maybe 5-10 years in the fund left, they will freak. Dems and Repubs alike. That is probably a generous appoximation.

One can point to the past and how Bush felt like throwing money at something before leaving. Fine. Panic attack, whatever. I thought that it was ludicrous. But this new spending is higher than the sum of ALL previous administrations combined --and exceeds by hundreds of billions.

I don't care if this president is purple, nor do I think these participants gave a fig what color this young man is. Our congress is spending like drunk gamblers in Vegas and last time I checked, in this country you are allowed to protest what seems wrong!

The jump to automatically place any event that disagrees with this administration and the congess into a racist category, is suspect to the accuser to say the least.

If this man was white, I'd disagree with this policy just the same. If I was black, would I be racist? Think about that honestly.

Were the people of color that disagreed with Bush racists?
Maybe they were, maybe they weren't - but let's be considerate of those with genuine discontent --without the labels and yes, name calling.

Just sayin'

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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:50 am
by Bill Call
Brian Pedaci wrote:The problem is that many of these people aren't protesting a reality -- they are protesting against a phantom socialist-fascist-communist-muslim-racist fantasy propagated by talk radio, bloggers, Fox News and others.


The Marxist/Facist nature of the Obamanation is quite real. Marxism and Facism are really the same ideaology. Look to Argentina and Zimbawbe for Obama's economic model.

Deficit spending over the next few years will be over 20% of GDP. We use to complain when it approached 4% of GDP. That level of spending will destroy the value of the dollar and hollow out what remains of our economy. That's the goal.

The lefts demonization of the governments political opponents is right out of Saul Alinsky's play book. Similar tactics are being used in Venezeula. No wonder Obama and Chavez get along so well.

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Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:34 pm
by ryan costa
The Obama administration is so far less liberal than that of Ford, Nixon, and Eisenhower.

You can congratulate the Reagan flock for our endemic budget deficits. All we can do from here on out is walk right into it.

Our free trade policies are incongruous with traditional American economic tariff policy. The Economic Theories used to justify free trade are rooted in conditions of transfer payments for the losers and for training up people to "compete in the global economy". the Economic theory used to justify free trade concludes that Free Trade is beneficial when winners compensate losers, capital does not chase cheap labor overseas, and several other laboratory-like conditions. presumably it makes mathematical sense.

If you wanna get rid of most taxes we need to make some changes. drastically reduce the size of military and activity of military and pay of military. adapt a much more stoic acceptance of the death of babies, the sick, the elderly, the sick elderly, and fetuses. end the war on drugs. encourage Juries of peers to ignore judges and prosecuting attorneys when they think the law is being a jerk(in both criminal and civic trials). get rid of no child left behind. start doling out land grants or really cheap land again. raise most tariffs to between 20 and 50 percent of market price in U.S. get rid of Earl Butz paradigms of agricultural policies(i hope you don't own stock in McDonalds). Gun Control has little to do with preventing crime: most crime prevention in the past that relied on violence relied on smacks, throttling, hitting people with canes before they got confident enough to devote great energy to emulating commercialized gutter slang.

Not sure what to do about the electricity network. Enron was a key lobbyist in the "deregulation" of california energy markets. they proceeded to gouge customers in all sorts of innovative ways.

there is no legitimate argument for the conservative agenda if it does not include tariffs, greatly reduced state/military involvement in the world, and very lower standards for health, safety, law, education, and accounting. Those conditions are the historical context in which conservative ideology make sense. that and doling out most of the land on the continent for far less than it would cost in Europe. The spirit of the Revolutionary War was the temptation of redistributing the northwest territory....to ourselves.

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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:13 pm
by ryan costa
I received more offers for credit cards and home loans in the mail this week. the offers occasionally show up on new-economy Yahoo.com's main page for the internet. If I could print it all up and stash it in a chest. A really big chest, like they would have transported tea in by sailboats 240 years ago. I could drive down the interstate highway to the Boston Harbor and dump it into the Boston Harbor.

littering

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:15 pm
by Dustin James
ryan costa wrote:I received more offers for credit cards and home loans in the mail this week. the offers occasionally show up on new-economy Yahoo.com's main page for the internet. If I could print it all up and stash it in a chest. A really big chest, like they would have transported tea in by sailboats 240 years ago. I could drive down the interstate highway to the Boston Harbor and dump it into the Boston Harbor.


Uh, that would be littering and quite a waste of gasoline. If you want attention, better to pile it into your recycling bin with a sign on top that says "what a good boy am I."

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