The Observation Deck

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I have a vision of you never an arms legth away from a bottle

Actually, I used to drink professionally, now I rarely perform, though I still
have my talents.



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sharon kinsella wrote:Bill - haven't you been following what's going on, right now, in America.

The failure of our economic structure can be traced right back to Reagan. From the union busting of air traffic controllers, to cutting enforcement agencies budgets - the one's that protect working stiffs, to NAFTA - the have's have plundered the poor, working class and middle class citizens in this country.

Here is a short history of the economic results of the Reagan Revolution:

http://www.heritage.org/Research/taxes/BG1414.cfm

Free markets create the most dynamic growth in jobs, income, investment, research and development and economic goodwill. That is the history wherever free markets exist.

Controlled markets, i.e. Obamanomics, stifle job growth, reduce income, kill research and development retard economic growth and create economic ill will and permanent class warfare.

In a broad sense Ronald Reagan made only two big mistakes. The first was choosing George Bush as his Vice President. The second was agreeing to Alan Greenspans Social Security Trust Fund Fraud.

The Trust Fund Fraud slowly, overtime will do great damage to YOUR retirement options and the economy. There is no Social Security Trust Fund. There is only a promise to raise taxes or decrease benefits at some future date.

Reagan's choice of George Bush as VP negated all of the good his economic policy's accomplished and made possible the Presidency of the George The Second, a disaster for the country, the Republican Party and the cause of freedom.

Barack Obama will embark on a economic and political path that will permanently damage the American economy and American society. America under Obama will more closely resemble Hugo Chavez Venezuela or Peronist Argentina than the American Republic.

In Obama's kleptocracy it will be the duty of all citizens to steal more from the other guy than the other guy steals from him. I hope Dennis Kucinich is up to the job.

Free markets create the most dynamic growth in jobs, income, investment, research and development and economic goodwill. That is the history wherever free markets exist.

They also self regulate themselves into economic collapse.

Bill Call wrote:

sharon kinsella wrote:Bill - haven't you been following what's going on, right now, in America.

The failure of our economic structure can be traced right back to Reagan. From the union busting of air traffic controllers, to cutting enforcement agencies budgets - the one's that protect working stiffs, to NAFTA - the have's have plundered the poor, working class and middle class citizens in this country.

Here is a short history of the economic results of the Reagan Revolution:

http://www.heritage.org/Research/taxes/BG1414.cfm

Free markets create the most dynamic growth in jobs, income, investment, research and development and economic goodwill. That is the history wherever free markets exist.

Controlled markets, i.e. Obamanomics, stifle job growth, reduce income, kill research and development retard economic growth and create economic ill will and permanent class warfare.

In a broad sense Ronald Reagan made only two big mistakes. The first was choosing George Bush as his Vice President. The second was agreeing to Alan Greenspans Social Security Trust Fund Fraud.

The Trust Fund Fraud slowly, overtime will do great damage to YOUR retirement options and the economy. There is no Social Security Trust Fund. There is only a promise to raise taxes or decrease benefits at some future date.

Reagan's choice of George Bush as VP negated all of the good his economic policy's accomplished and made possible the Presidency of the George The Second, a disaster for the country, the Republican Party and the cause of freedom.

Barack Obama will embark on a economic and political path that will permanently damage the American economy and American society. America under Obama will more closely resemble Hugo Chavez Venezuela or Peronist Argentina than the American Republic.

In Obama's kleptocracy it will be the duty of all citizens to steal more from the other guy than the other guy steals from him. I hope Dennis Kucinich is up to the job.

American under Obama can more closely resemble 1950s America, Austria, norway, or sweden, or the things we enjoy most about Canada. Obama is merely restoring America's traditional post-protectionism tax structure.

Under Reagan wave after wave of leveraged buyouts, mergers and acquisitions, and wall street chicanery took place. While he didn't quite cause it, he enabled it. the lower capital gains and top tiered income taxes were like juicing up the payouts at casinos. In the wake of the buyouts, mergers, and nascent-turbo-globalism one thing consistently happened: town after town lost most of its industry and much of its retail and services sectors. Wall Street duped thousands of savings and loans into moronic deals that left them broke and over.

Reagan did not reverse the agricultural policies of Secretary of Agriculture Earl Butz: wave after wave of farms continued going under. Wave after wave of regional slaughter houses and local butchers became obsolete. wave after wave of fast food franchises and chain restaurant popped up.

Reagan's Arms Race did nothing to intimidate the Soviet Union: that was more for our own self esteem and additional work for our manufacturing industry. it cost a lot of money though. Money we're all on the hook for now, to produce things most americans will never use in their day to day lives. If we were going to borrow that much money i'd have rather it been spent on bridges and rebuilding all that rail torn up in the mid 20th century.

Jim DeVito wrote:

Free markets create the most dynamic growth in jobs, income, investment, research and development and economic goodwill. That is the history wherever free markets exist.

They also self regulate themselves into economic collapse.

technically, it was Government intervention / mandates that caused this mess... just sayin

Bill - Heritage org. is not an unbiased source. It is a republican try and think tank.

Try again.

The free market system in American has collapsed. Call Wall Street.

Here's a little glimpse through one of my windows -

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bennet-ke ... 39098.html

sharon kinsella wrote:Bill - Heritage org. is not an unbiased source. It is a republican try and think tank.

Try again.

The free market system in American has collapsed. Call Wall Street.

The free market system did not fail. The government mandating how the free market should conduct business caused its failure..

Eisel that statement is probably once of the most vapid remarks you've made on here and that's a stretch hun.

sharon kinsella wrote:Eisel that statement is probably once of the most vapid remarks you've made on here and that's a stretch hun.

Sharon, sometimes the truth is boring. just sayin

Under Reagan wave after wave of leveraged buyouts, mergers and acquisitions, and wall street chicanery took place. While he didn't quite cause it, he enabled it. the lower capital gains and top tiered income taxes were like juicing up the payouts at casinos. In the wake of the buyouts, mergers, and nascent-turbo-globalism one thing consistently happened: town after town lost most of its industry and much of its retail and services sectors. Wall Street duped thousands of savings and loans into moronic deals that left them broke and over.

Lower tax rates do not equate to less tax revenue.

ryan costa wrote:

Bill Call wrote:

sharon kinsella wrote:Bill - haven't you been following what's going on, right now, in America.

The failure of our economic structure can be traced right back to Reagan. From the union busting of air traffic controllers, to cutting enforcement agencies budgets - the one's that protect working stiffs, to NAFTA - the have's have plundered the poor, working class and middle class citizens in this country.

Here is a short history of the economic results of the Reagan Revolution:

http://www.heritage.org/Research/taxes/BG1414.cfm

Free markets create the most dynamic growth in jobs, income, investment, research and development and economic goodwill. That is the history wherever free markets exist.

Controlled markets, i.e. Obamanomics, stifle job growth, reduce income, kill research and development retard economic growth and create economic ill will and permanent class warfare.

In a broad sense Ronald Reagan made only two big mistakes. The first was choosing George Bush as his Vice President. The second was agreeing to Alan Greenspans Social Security Trust Fund Fraud.

The Trust Fund Fraud slowly, overtime will do great damage to YOUR retirement options and the economy. There is no Social Security Trust Fund. There is only a promise to raise taxes or decrease benefits at some future date.

Reagan's choice of George Bush as VP negated all of the good his economic policy's accomplished and made possible the Presidency of the George The Second, a disaster for the country, the Republican Party and the cause of freedom.

Barack Obama will embark on a economic and political path that will permanently damage the American economy and American society. America under Obama will more closely resemble Hugo Chavez Venezuela or Peronist Argentina than the American Republic.

In Obama's kleptocracy it will be the duty of all citizens to steal more from the other guy than the other guy steals from him. I hope Dennis Kucinich is up to the job.

American under Obama can more closely resemble 1950s America, Austria, norway, or sweden, or the things we enjoy most about Canada. Obama is merely restoring America's traditional post-protectionism tax structure.

Under Reagan wave after wave of leveraged buyouts, mergers and acquisitions, and wall street chicanery took place. While he didn't quite cause it, he enabled it. the lower capital gains and top tiered income taxes were like juicing up the payouts at casinos. In the wake of the buyouts, mergers, and nascent-turbo-globalism one thing consistently happened: town after town lost most of its industry and much of its retail and services sectors. Wall Street duped thousands of savings and loans into moronic deals that left them broke and over.

Reagan did not reverse the agricultural policies of Secretary of Agriculture Earl Butz: wave after wave of farms continued going under. Wave after wave of regional slaughter houses and local butchers became obsolete. wave after wave of fast food franchises and chain restaurant popped up.

Reagan's Arms Race did nothing to intimidate the Soviet Union: that was more for our own self esteem and additional work for our manufacturing industry. it cost a lot of money though. Money we're all on the hook for now, to produce things most americans will never use in their day to day lives. If we were going to borrow that much money i'd have rather it been spent on bridges and rebuilding all that rail torn up in the mid 20th century.

Did you buy a 1/2 off history book? You should Google Jimmy Carter

Stephen Eisel wrote:

ryan costa wrote:Reagan's Arms Race did nothing to intimidate the Soviet Union: that was more for our own self esteem and additional work for our manufacturing industry. it cost a lot of money though. Money we're all on the hook for now, to produce things most americans will never use in their day to day lives. If we were going to borrow that much money i'd have rather it been spent on bridges and rebuilding all that rail torn up in the mid 20th century.

Did you buy a 1/2 off history book? You should Google Jimmy Carter

Ryan

I think it was more going broke on fighting Afghanistan as well, it was certainly not star wars, as the fairy tale goes.

I will always remember Reagan as the president that stole American weapons from the US military to sell them to Iran, to fund another illegal war against the Sandanistas. Which got so bad, they needed the CIA to work to bring in tons of cocaine to help fund the war. (Operation Midnight)

Reagan might have been their best, was still a crook.

It is Reagan's kabal that allows me to hoist Bill Clinton up the flagpole as the best Republican President of my lifetime.


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Stephen Eisel wrote:

Under Reagan wave after wave of leveraged buyouts, mergers and acquisitions, and wall street chicanery took place. While he didn't quite cause it, he enabled it. the lower capital gains and top tiered income taxes were like juicing up the payouts at casinos. In the wake of the buyouts, mergers, and nascent-turbo-globalism one thing consistently happened: town after town lost most of its industry and much of its retail and services sectors. Wall Street duped thousands of savings and loans into moronic deals that left them broke and over.

Lower tax rates do not equate to less tax revenue.

The Laffer Curve that Reaganistas trumpet only boosts tax revenues for a handfull of years for a small range of tax cuts. The benefits of it generally drop off near 40 percent. It is only a consistent coincidence they trigger the kind of wall street casino-ism that generates the Great Depression, the Savings and Loan Crisis, and our recent 700 billion dollar bail out.

It is traditional and logical to raise progressive income taxes during Wars, and usually during Arms Races. However, I am glad that boy scouts and hollywood starlets are not showing up at my door trying to sell me war bonds.

income over 150,000 should be taxed at 45 % until the "wars" in Iraq and Afghanistan are over, until bases in South Korea and Japan and Southeast Asia are closed.

John F. Kennedy:

Our true choice is not between tax reduction, on the one hand, and the avoidance of large Federal deficits on the other. It is increasingly clear that no matter what party is in power, so long as our national security needs keep rising, an economy hampered by restrictive tax rates will never produce enough revenues to balance our budget just as it will never produce enough jobs or enough profits… In short, it is a paradoxical truth that tax rates are too high today and tax revenues are too low and the soundest way to raise the revenues in the long run is to cut the rates now.

Because of the Kennedy tax cuts, tax revenues climbed from $94 billion in 1961 to $153 billion in 1968, an increase of 62 percent. Because of the Regan tax cuts, total tax revenues climbed by 99.4 percent during the 1980s.