The Observation Deck

What Gloria's article points out clearly is the Palin is NOT balancing work and family well!!! For God's sake, to have a seventeen year old daughter pregnant and teach ABSTINENCE ONLY?????? Come on!!! That alone says a lot! And the double standard of a woman running with her family can NOT be exclusive from her qualifications for a job! I don't want that resume running the country at its most difficult time in decades! And yes, running, since she would take over if McCain drops over!

We don't have to ask her children if they want to be in the spotlight! It doesn't take Freud or Dr. Phil to recognize that a seventeen year old who is pregnant should NOT be pushing into the spotlight! Or into marriage to make her mom look better!!!!! And judging leaving a baby at three days to go back to work. hell yea I judge her for that. Bringing children into the world is a choice that she made! You couldn't pay me all the money in the world to go to any job and leave my newborn at three weeks. I had to do it with my second child at three months because I carried the insurance and I cried daily and quit after the school year ended. Yes that was my choice, but come on, three days? And she is going to be a part of making decisions for my children's futures???

As for reading posts that presume to tell us what "all liberals" or "all conservatives" think and feel is nauseating and arrogant. Yes I have seen some women who work put down stay at home moms and vica versa to justify their own insecurities, but at the end of the day, or on our deathbed, I just can't imagine saying "damn I wished I had worked more" over wishing we had one more day with our children.

Thanks Stan.

Justine you are wise always.

Sharon, Im not callling into question who you are of what you've done. I'm just telling you what I see and what I've experienced. By doing so, I am not discounting your view. It's just that mine is different.

Will, I am sitting here, trying to figure out how to respond to your response, but yours is suffering from what you say mine is... it really makes no sense. For one calling me out on assumptions, you seem to make quite a few as well. I'd rather debate this issue on a point by point basis with someone who isnt quite as personally insulting as yourself.

As or blowing smoke about how my kids are and what they do- uh, no. I know what they do each day. And I SEE the results from it. However, after reading your comparison of daycare kids to raising psychotic abused children that will eventually be burdens on society because my husband and I are selfish? Please. You don't even know me or my amazing kids, who I am raising to be wonderful people DESPITE the ugliness of much of the rest of society.

Judge all you want, but you are definitely the type of person whose opinions I could never value upon this topic. Your response has made that very clear.

Valerie,
You are not alone on that. Most won't respond to his ridiculous posts that stereotype and generalize entire groups, whether it be kids in day care, or all teachers are bad and ineffective. There is much bitterness in his posts that unfortunately flow onto posters with no regard for the message of the original post. Just like "all" homeschool kids get a better education.

Will Brown wrote:
IThe conservatives that I know generally recognize the value of a woman who chooses to be a homemaker; the liberals that I know are surprisingly vicious in condemning that belief. I think a lot of the criticism of Palin comes from liberals who don't value her work as a homemaker, and more comes from women who feel a little bad about working rather than raising their children, and are jealous that she seems able to do both.
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I am curious, what makes you the expert on how liberal and conservative women think and feel? As a liberal homemaker who also can't wait to get back to a fulfilling career now that the youngest are in school full time, you are telling me that liberals CONDEMN and are vicious? Lord who do you hang out with? Maybe I should invite you to meet educated and wise working and homemaking moms?

So you are saying if a woman doesn't like Palin or all she stands for, she must be jealous? Jealous of a woman who cares more about carrying guns than her newborn child??? Jealous of a woman who wants to be in the spotlight so bad she would thrust her pregnant teen into it too? If you assume all moms would do that for the spotlight or a career, you don't know women at all. One thing Colleen had halfway right, we AINT no stepford bitches that fall into one caveman mentality form!

Will you're arrogant and foolish.

I'm so liberal I fall off the liberal map - their too far to the right for me.

But I don't judge people under an umbrella - I do for what they say and how they treat others.

I did see one poster who thinks they are Sarah Palen - now that is funny.

I am curious, what makes you the expert on how liberal women think

I am also insane... I do not think that anyone has to worry about Sarah Palin. She seems very capable of taking care of herself..

Don't push it Stephen, you know I'm unhappy, mentally unstable and impossible to talk to.

Stephen Eisel wrote:

I am curious, what makes you the expert on how liberal women think

I am also insane... I do not think that anyone has to worry about Sarah Palin. She seems very capable of taking care of herself..

Great. She can take care of herself. Like a pitbull with lipstick. She just can't take good enough care of her children which IS indicative to many of us as to whether she can "take care of" or "run" a country, which includes being involved in many laws involving CHILDREN so no thanks.

Justine Cooper wrote:

Stephen Eisel wrote:

I am curious, what makes you the expert on how liberal women think

I am also insane... I do not think that anyone has to worry about Sarah Palin. She seems very capable of taking care of herself..

Great. She can take care of herself. Like a pitbull with lipstick. She just can't take good enough care of her children which IS indicative to many of us as to whether she can "take care of" or "run" a country, which includes being involved in many laws involving CHILDREN so no thanks.

And how about Obama? Will he be able to take care of his children? or is taking care of children just a woman's job?

wonderful posts, as always, Justine--I support your view with every fiber of my being..........feel the same way about Palin as I do about John Edwards--both just very selfish and appear to be morally bankrupt pp who seem to see some higher calling for themselves then supporting their families in times of crisis.

this is not at all a female/male issue it's about putting your needs and ego aside and thinking what's best for your family------ it's a hard thing for a narcissist to wrap their minds around, I understand. I feel for their families!

Stephen Eisel wrote:

Justine Cooper wrote:

Stephen Eisel wrote:

I am curious, what makes you the expert on how liberal women think

I am also insane... I do not think that anyone has to worry about Sarah Palin. She seems very capable of taking care of herself..

Great. She can take care of herself. Like a pitbull with lipstick. She just can't take good enough care of her children which IS indicative to many of us as to whether she can "take care of" or "run" a country, which includes being involved in many laws involving CHILDREN so no thanks.

And how about Obama? Will he be able to take care of his children? or is taking care of children just a woman's job?

I am sorry, does he have a pregnant teen, paraded in front of the country and pushed into marriage to make mommy look legit while teaching his whole state "abstinence only children! no need to learn how to protect yourself from life threatening std's and unwanted pregnancies when you can't take care of yourself let alone a baby", OR a child with disabilties paraded in front of the country, brought to a Snoisy, late, long convention filled with germs? How about a baby with disabilities-a full time job alone-to be raised by nannies while working 80 hours plus a week?

To compare the two is whacked. So let me ask you this, would you want to be a child of Palin? Pick a child, the youngest baby with disabilities who needs her MOM, the oldest, pregnant and pushed to marry, or any of the ones in the middle, who won't have their mom but what, an hour a day?

To compare the two is whacked. So let me ask you this, would you want to be a child of Palin? Pick a child, the youngest baby with disabilities who needs her MOM, the oldest, pregnant and pushed to marry, or any of the ones in the middle, who won't have their mom but what, an hour a day?

I would not trade the mother that I have for all of the money in the world.

Well Stephen, on that point we agree!