Socialized Medicine: A Short Cut To The Cemetary?

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Stephen Eisel
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Grace O'Malley wrote:FACT: Teen pregnancies in the US have declined since 1990. See the Guttmacher Institute reports.

Since when is education about our health and how to preserve it NOT part of the medical system? If our so called first class system focused MORE on education and prevention, we would be healthier and our costs would be lower.

Lastly, the US is rapidly losing its place as the technological and scientific leader in research. China, India, and even Korea, are leaping past us, particularly in areas where our scientists are constrained by restrictions put in place for political reasons.
It is still a factor in the US infant mortality rate.
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Grace O'Malley wrote:FACT: Teen pregnancies in the US have declined since 1990. See the Guttmacher Institute reports.

Since when is education about our health and how to preserve it NOT part of the medical system? If our so called first class system focused MORE on education and prevention, we would be healthier and our costs would be lower.

Lastly, the US is rapidly losing its place as the technological and scientific leader in research. China, India, and even Korea, are leaping past us, particularly in areas where our scientists are constrained by restrictions put in place for political reasons.
I had several classes in grade school and high school that dealt with human health (I think that they were mandatory classes). The high infant mortality rate in this country probably has more to do with poor choices by individuals then lack of education.
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Jeff Endress wrote:
The infant mortality rate has increased not because of the (lack of) US medical system but because obesity, drug use, and teen pregnancy.


And just how many of those pregnant teens do you suppose have hospitalization insurnace to cover the costs of a pregnancy?

Jeff
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Stephen -

Talk to some of the ob/gyn's at Metro.

I have.

You'll get the real skinny from them.
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BTW

Did you know there are a bunch of homeless teens in Lakewood?


My daughter works outreach in Cleveland and some in Lakewood with homeless teens.
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sharon kinsella wrote:Stephen -

Talk to some of the ob/gyn's at Metro.

I have.

You'll get the real skinny from them.
I have a friend that works at Metro.. Some of the stories are unbelievable
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sharon kinsella wrote:BTW

Did you know there are a bunch of homeless teens in Lakewood?


My daughter works outreach in Cleveland and some in Lakewood with homeless teens.
Yes, I was aware and it is so sad. Do orphanages still exist? I know of two older people (50 and older) that grew up in orphange. Or have foster parents replaced the orphanages of the old days?
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Orphanages still exist and so does foster care.

However, like so many other systesm, they are seriously flawed.

These kids will not stay in foster care and do not want to be part of the system. They equate it with what we would see as prisoners of war.

It is a damn shame and my heart breaks for them.
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a little good news (clicky here)

Life Expectancy of Americans Hits 78
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