The Observation Deck

Jim O'Bryan wrote:

Mark Kindt wrote:Mr. O'Bryan, I call "b*llsh*t" on your post above.

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Likewise brother on your post.

You know that behind the scenes, no one has asked for any independent information or oversight on any of this.

I only know of one council person that has asked for documents, and demanded sunshine in all meetings since she has been on.

I only know of two council people actively working behind the scenes, on getting some of this information out and stop some of the issues that arose from it.

Voting no, on something that was going to pass doesn't take anything out of the ordinary.

Demanding honesty, transparency and accountability does.

I only know of two doing that, and only one was recently elected.

As far giving up, I only know one person preaching that.

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Jim O'Bryan wrote:

Mark Kindt wrote:Mr. O'Bryan, I call "b*llsh*t" on your post above.

Likewise brother on your post.

Mark Kindt wrote:Let us agree to disagree.

Jim O'Bryan wrote:

Mark Kindt wrote:Let us agree to disagree.

Mark

I would love to, but much going on behind the scenes, I am not willing to pontificate on, as it is in progress.

I know who has stepped up and who hasn't.

I will agree that this could be different for both of us, which could cause different perspectives

But in the end, months from know we can once again compare notes and see, who was closer to the truth.

I believe I have a pretty good record currently.

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mjkuhns wrote:

Jim O'Bryan wrote:

Mark Kindt wrote:Let us agree to disagree.

Mark

I would love to, but much going on behind the scenes, I am not willing to pontificate on, as it is in progress.

I know who has stepped up and who hasn't.

I will agree that this could be different for both of us, which could cause different perspectives

But in the end, months from know we can once again compare notes and see, who was closer to the truth.

I believe I have a pretty good record currently.

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That would seem to be that, within a reasoned conversation.

I feel that I am doing my level best to give people reasons for my assertions—but there is still in the end an element of asking them to trust me, and others reaching similar conclusions.

My record, alone, is certainly not without failures. I have made some judgments that I now consider to be in error. But I have tried to learn from these, and to make a habit of questioning assumptions and sources. I certainly invite people to make note all of that, and consider it in instances when they have completed as much independent review as they can, and may still be faced with a question of trust.