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Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:08 pm**

Bill Call wrote:
Why do we have to surrender a hospital for a second rate medical office building?

Call it what you will - would you rather a rotted hospital building that would most likely end up in constant arbitration? That does not fair well for the residents.

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:30 pm**

We ended up with "a rotted hospital building."

For 64 leaves us stuck with it AND prevents anyone else from providing healthcare services on the site.

So, if you want an empty building that taxpayers must either renovate or demolish, go ahead and support the mayor's plan and plan on a hefty tax increase as the building sits empty for at least the next 3-5 years.

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:30 pm**

Along this line, here is one thing I don't understand:

Let's say 64 fails. How do we force the CCF to take Lakewood Hospital back to what it was before they gutted it?

Correct me if I am wrong, but though CCF may have had a contract, can't they just throw money and lawyers at it and make it near impossible for us to force them to reopen it? And who represents the city? Is it the the same City Hall that made the deal in the first place? Why would they want to throw the city's money and resources at suing the very institution that they previously had a deal with before issue 64 failed?

Or, do we just leave CCF alone and try to negotiate a better deal. And, a similar question, who are we entrusting to negotiate that better deal if 64 fails? Would it be back in the hands of City Hall? I seriously am confused about who is taking responsibility for what happens next if 64 fails.

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:33 pm**

They will not be forced to "re-open" the hospital - no court will order that. They knew that -that was why they quickly exited in February so that it was assured that they wouldn't be stuck there.

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:18 pm**

Corey--- How 'bout you sell me your house for, say- $9,000 ? And, leave the furniture, and the keys and signed title to your car in the driveway.? NOW hehe so I can get the wrecking ball in.

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:00 pm**

I offered (on the Deck) Anderson $10,000 for his rental house, so I could tear it down and build a new garage.

Still waiting for the deed . . .

Posted: **Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:04 pm**

Corey Rossen wrote:
Bill Call wrote:
Corey Rossen wrote:I will ask again. Prove me wrong. What is the plan if against 64 passes? You have had many chances and instead of showing a plan you display hate, and flail your arms in frustration over not having an answer as you just proved.

Given this opportunity again to state your plan - you failed. You hate Lakewood, and want to win at all costs, even if that means not having a plan.

Plan if against 64 passes. Go.
The closet thing to a display of hate I ever saw was when the Mayor used the police force to threaten and intimidate the opposition.

Your question has been answered many times and in many ways. I will give you the short version.

If issue 64 fails the original agreement remains in affect. The original agreement required the Clinic to maintain the Hospital as an ongoing concern in substantilly the same condition.

When the Clinic accelerated the process they were warned by judge O'Donnell that they proceded at their own risk.

Issue 64 changes the Lakewood Hospital Foundation to a new regional Foundation controlled by the Clinic. When was that discussed or debated? As one supporter of issue 64 stated "that $33 million is gone".

Issue 64 transfers millions of dollars in medical supplies an equipment and licenses to the Clinic without compensation to the City.

Issue 64 forces the City to bear the full cost of demolition and site development.

Issue 64 requires the City to build and maintain parking facilities without compensation.

Issue 64 transfers 1,000 jobs to Lorain County from Lakewood.

Issue 64 sells the Columbia Road property and the related equipment and business for substantially less than the actual value.

Issue 64 gives the Clinic the full value of $140 million in revenue generated by Lakewood without ANY compensation to the City.

Issue 64 requires the City to surrender any remaining cash to a foundation controlled by the Clinic.

Issue 64 gives the Clinic the right reduce future serice in Lakewood without notice.

Issue 64 requires the Clinic to build a small 3 story medical office building that will house the residency program on one floor, the gay, lesbian and transgender clinic on another floor and everthing else on the third floor.

Issue 64 gives the Clinic a monopoly on Healthcare service in Lakewood on the current Hospital site which gives the Clinic an effective healthcare monopoly in Lakewood.

Issue 64 grants a blanket immunity for all board members for their failure to perform their fiduciary duty.

Issue 64 grants the Clinic blanket immunity for their breach of contract.

Issue 64 requires the City to pay millions of dollars in insurance premiums to an insurance company controlled by the Clinic.

Issue 64 is a bad deal.

Issue 64 us bad for your health.

Vote against issue 64
Thank you for the response.

I agree, Bill. Your question has been answered many times and in many ways. However, I echo Corey's gratitude for your thorough short version response.

How is it that our very own finance director could not clarify these facts? How is she is qualified for her position without a CPA license?

Without question... I will vote AGAINST 64.

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