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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:37 am
by Jim O'Bryan
Gary Rice wrote:KUMBAYAH!

Step away from the banjo
Much clean-up to do in this thread.
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:51 am
by Missy Limkemann
Ok, I am going to admit this, but I am terrified of chickens, hens etc etc. TERRIFIED!!!!! Spending summers in West Virginia on a farm, I was attacked by a nasty mean ol bird and now I am terrified.
I know this is off topic...I just had to share.
Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:27 am
by Stephen Eisel
I hope that they will not let people keep roosters...
Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:33 am
by Stephen Eisel
Edit I hope that the list of acceptable fowl does not include roosters.
Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:42 am
by Missy Limkemann
I will shoot the rooster that wakes me up at dawn. My kids dont even wake me up that early and I seriously will have issues with a bird that wakes me up that early.

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:43 am
by Jim O'Bryan
Stephen Eisel wrote:Edit I hope that the list of acceptable fowl does not include roosters.
Stephen
I believe and would hope that Lakewood's law will mirror the law introduced by Joe Cimperman in Cleveland Council, over a month ago.
Their law is about an entire green movement, and would be one reason I hope the council takes it more seriously than it seems to at introduction.
The Cleveland law makes it almost impossible to own a rooster, I want to say it is almost 12 acres is needed before you can have one rooster. With that the rooster house has to be 1,000' from the next piece of property, etc.
The Cleveland Law which I will post in a separate thread does allow about 6-10 chickens per average lot. And that it will fall under the animal services to get enforced.
Another thing Cleveland has done is streamlined the process, so that you do not need a handful of permits. 1 for construction, 1 for design, 1 for each animal etc. Instead, one call one permit and you are good to go.
Another part of the Cleveland legislation is for bee hives. Besides the honey factor, it will also help with the many urban gardens and farms popping up all over Cleveland. Our partners The Cleveland Foundation has mini grants available all over Cleveland for between $500 and $5000 to start urban gardens. I have approached them for similar grants in Lakewood.
One thing I found while attending these many meetings in Cleveland is that urban farms ar the cheapest most effective way to landbank and or have property. The most expensive on a city is retail, followed by industrial, followed by abandoned, followed by rental, followed by lived in, then parks, the urban gardens. This takes into account ALL city services needed to maintain the area. Police, garbage, etc.
FWIW
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:55 am
by Bill Grulich
Who says originality is dead?
Bill Grulich
Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:58 am
by Stephen Eisel
http://www.buildeazy.com/chicken_coop_1.html
I have no problem with this legislation. It makes sense on so many different levels.
Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:05 am
by Stephen Eisel
Another part of the Cleveland legislation is for bee hives. Besides the honey factor, it will also help with the many urban gardens and farms popping up all over Cleveland.
Plant some borage and the honey bees will come.
Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:09 am
by sharon kinsella
I didn't say that, I said it disappeared. I should have been more detailed, I humbly apologize.
I probably wrote and and didn't hit submit. I was tired and it was late. I just wanted Jennifer to know that I came, I saw, I said something.
My friend, if I thought I was edited, it would have been LOUD!
Take it easy today HA!
Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:10 am
by Jim O'Bryan
Bill Grulich wrote:Who says originality is dead?
Bill Grulich
Bill
One of two marvelous books written by the mother of LO's own Thealexa Becker.
Her father is also one of the key people in Cleveland State's Magnificent Historical Photo Archives.
FWIW
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:49 pm
by sharon kinsella
That Lakewood sign reminds me of something. I can't quite think of what it is.
Look how modern it was for it's time, I'm guesstimating the 50's. Of course back then we thought we'd have people living on Mars.