Mayor's L2L Event Must Be Canceled or Moved

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Michael Deneen
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Re: Mayor's L2L Event Must Be Canceled or Moved

Post by Michael Deneen »

kate e parker wrote:you are a plant. see-through, really. so outraged, are you that you wait to report your outrage. no witnesses. no corroboration. just you and your t-shirt.


I wasn't at the incident, Kate.
However, I've gotten to know Leo and his sister Pam in recent months.
Leo is in fact a real person, not a phony internet interloper.

Leo and Pam are straight shooters....they tell it like it is, even if it rubs folks the wrong way.
I've never had a negative experience at Rozi's...but I believe the Wetulas' story.
kate e parker

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Post by kate e parker »

I've no doubt that leo is who he says he is.

i'm saying that he's plant.
Leo Wetula
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Post by Leo Wetula »

kate e parker wrote:I've no doubt that leo is who he says he is.

i'm saying that he's plant.


I should not need to respond to you, but I will. I was not alone. I was with a female friend who was also in a red Save Lakewood Hospital t-shirt. Again, can you please focus on the issue at hand instead of spewing allegations? It is inappropriate for the mayor to be holding this event at Rozi's for other reasons. Place the focus where is should be, on the mayor's inappropriate, unethical behavior and the ugliness that he is fostering in our city. :!:
cameron karslake
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Re: Mayor's L2L Event Must Be Canceled or Moved

Post by cameron karslake »

Kate,
I can also vouch for Leo. He didn't wait to tell his story until just the other day, but related it to the SLH group at a meeting over a month ago. He was looking to buy some wine for a SLH fund raiser his sister was organizing and was kicked out of Rozi's.
Bill Call
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Re: Mayor's L2L Event Must Be Canceled or Moved

Post by Bill Call »

Rozis is small potatoes.

The Mayor and the LHA have been going around town promising local groups a piece of the action if they get on board. The prospect of millions in LHA and LHF money can sway a lot of minds.

Does Lakewood need a Truth Commission?
Bill Call
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Re: Mayor's L2L Event Must Be Canceled or Moved

Post by Bill Call »

Rozis is small potatoes.

The Mayor and the LHA have been going around town promising local groups a piece of the action if they get on board. The prospect of millions in LHA and LHF money can sway a lot of minds.

Does Lakewood need a Truth Commission?
Matthew Lee
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Re: Mayor's L2L Event Must Be Canceled or Moved

Post by Matthew Lee »

Hi Bill,

Who are these local groups who have been promised a piece of the action? It would be important for us to know who they are so we can address what is going on directly. Please let us know. Thanks,

Matt
Bill Call
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Re: Mayor's L2L Event Must Be Canceled or Moved

Post by Bill Call »

North Coast Health
Beck Center
YMCA
Lakewood Alive
others?

How much the Mayors friends have been promised won't be known unless the discovery process is allowed to continue.

How much of Lakewood Hospital Foundation money has been promised? I don't know. According to Sean Juris the new Foundation would pass out money to groups in Lakewood and surrounding communities. How much and to whom? He isn't saying.

The Mayor told people in various groups to "think big" about development possibilities. Is it possible that his meaning was think big but don't think of your own organization or of anything in particular?

During the last few months I've learned that members of the Hospital Board have been calling doctors who work at the Hospital and for the Clinic. They are being told to "stay away" from the Hospital issue. There is a lot of money at stake. Is this really all about a small office building on the corner of Belle and Detroit?

For the last four years the Mayor has been working to dismantle Lakewood Hospital. During that time he talked repeatedly about development potential and "freeing up the money". I guess its possible that during that time the Mayor never had any discussion with anyone or any organization about uses for that money. How likely is that?

What about the future of healthcare in Lakewood?

Why does the Clinic care? According to the Mayor all of Lakewood's healthcare needs can be met by a small medical office building on the corner of Belle and Detroit. What does the Clinic lose if we simply tell them no thanks? According to the Clinic and the Mayor they lose nothing. Really?
cameron karslake
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Re: Mayor's L2L Event Must Be Canceled or Moved

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There is no way the Clinic is going to turn it's back on Lakewood and give up all the business generated here. Why do you think they are fighting so hard to establish a monopoly here in Lakewood? When the CCF and the mayor say have nothing to lose, they are lying! There is much to lose and they know it.
todd vainisi
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Re: Mayor's L2L Event Must Be Canceled or Moved

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Todd, I get my information from public records. Defaming my character is fine if it makes you feel better. At least I am not involved in what appears to be money laundering, etc. like your buddy Mike Summers is. And how about what appears to be covering up all the crime that is happening in Lakewood? Ten confirmed rapes and two unconfirmed, one being a two year old boy. I lost count seeing as most police reports now are labeled Departmental Information. How about the robberies and some at gun point? I could go on and on about your buddy, but, then I would have to do the work for you. I suggest that you search through public records. Oh, and yes, the Clerk of Courts refused to let my son and I view the Felony 4 that the city prosecuter and the judge dismissed. Felony 4 is procuring prostitution with children under the age of 16. The man moved from Clarence and has set up shop in another place in Lakewood. Just last weekend I believe there were four heroin overdoses in a 48 hour period.

I love my city and ran for Ward 3 council to try to make things better. I came in 4th with 10% of the vote. At least I am trying to make my community better, and yes, I support saving Lakewood Hospital. Check my records Todd. A couple of traffic tickets and a couple of small injury law suits. Have at it Todd! You appear to be doing nothing but mouthing off about things that you yourself cannot prove. What are you doing to help our city? Are you for saving Lakewood Hospital. Just curious. Have a nice rest of your day.


I love how at the end of your post, you try to play off like you have not been completely disrespectful and condescending by telling me to have a good day. I've read tons of information about the hospital deal and the lease and charter agreement and the lawsuit and the findings of the "independent investigators". I'm not at all ignorant, though I know the situation is much more complicated than those simple documents can explain. Everything in healthcare is non-transparent and a huge can of worms.

Mike Summers is not my buddy. You threw the first stone and tried to defame my character by calling me an operative for the Mayor, which you repeat over and over in this post (calling him my buddy). I was a member of SLH until recently when I decided that the issue is far too complex to put in the hands of a group of volunteers with no real power and I don't feel the hospital should be run by popular vote of the city either. That doesn't make me Mike Summers' buddy. I plan to vote for someone else in the election, and I want that person empowered to do what he feels is best on this issue, not have his hands tied by the the general populace. Popular does not equal right. You are also the person that hoped a vet would be awarded several million of our tax dollars because our Animal Control Officer was doing his job. That's not pro-Lakewoood at all.

I don't agree with calling for boycotts against any business for something as trivial as a belief about what should happen to a hospital. Amy Martin used the example of Chick-fil-a's anti-gay rhetoric and lobbying as a reason to boycott them. Yes! That was a company actively trying to discriminate against a huge segment of our society. That's not what this is at all. This is about a hospital.
todd heckeler
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Amy Martin
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Re: Mayor's L2L Event Must Be Canceled or Moved

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I have the right to boycott whatever business I like for whatever reason I feel is relevant to myself. So does everyone else.
Amy Martin
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Post by Amy Martin »

And by the way, my partner and I just spent $232.00 on a case of wine from Heinens last Saturday!! :D
Leo Wetula
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Re: Mayor's L2L Event Must Be Canceled or Moved

Post by Leo Wetula »

kate e parker wrote:I've no doubt that leo is who he says he is.

i'm saying that he's plant.


What does that even mean? Like I and my friend went into Rozi's and loitered until we got thrown out? Get serious. This LH business is making people act nuttier and nuttier.
todd vainisi
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Re: Mayor's L2L Event Must Be Canceled or Moved

Post by todd vainisi »

So I see you'd prefer to spend your cash just outside our city limits Amy! Good for you! You are 100% right; you can withhold your money from any business you like. I guess it just comes down to what you stand for. This is way too trivial an issue for me to make a stand against others over.
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