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Re: Speeding - Limited Resources or Limited Leadership

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:37 am
by Jim O'Bryan
Mike

I believe Citistat has been phased out for the most part. Last time I asked it was Jenn Pae
that was in charge of what was left of it. I belive it was showing too many flaws in the
FitzGerald Administration. For all we know, there was a spot for him to enter his driver's
license and he said get rid of it.

No matter as with most things advertise as lif changing by City Hall and some members of
council means, another lack luster idea that will probably benefit them if for no other reason
than hid how bad their are doing.

I am 100% with Matt on this. Why do you or anyone need a public record request? It is just
a way to slow down RESIDENT's access to City Hall. As Mike said, he could get to "HIS GUY"
at Cleveland com. You know the one they can control, and works with them. Like Colin at
Patch, then they hire him to use fake names and write more puff pieces with money that
could have been used for parks, safety, residents anything but spin.

WE need serious oversight of city hall and council.

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Re: Speeding - Limited Resources or Limited Leadership

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 9:22 am
by Ryan Salo
I received the parking ticket information WITHOUT a public records request!

Ready to know how many residents and consumers we ticketed in 2013 and YTD in 2014? I hope you are sitting down.

2013 - 10,167
YTD 2014 - 8,403

As a reminder, the city issued 405 speeding tickets in 2013.

I guess this administration feels it is 22x more important to fine residents and consumers than it is to slow down outsiders "flying" through our city.

Re: Speeding - Limited Resources or Limited Leadership

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 9:27 am
by Ryan Salo
I also want to mention that an officer was using my driveway to do rush hour traffic radar for a little more than an hour last night and he issued 6 tickets including towing a car for someone driving with a suspended license. If he did that 5 days a week for a total of lets say 10 hours a week that would be 1560 tickets a year. Obviously there are plenty of speeders putting others at risk, we just have a problem at city hall...

Re: Speeding - Limited Resources or Limited Leadership

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 6:15 pm
by Michael Deneen
Ryan Salo wrote:I also want to mention that an officer was using my driveway to do rush hour traffic radar for a little more than an hour last night and he issued 6 tickets including towing a car for someone driving with a suspended license.


So radar enforcement can mean cracking down on people without valid licenses?
I think another piece of the puzzle just fell into place.

#hearnoevil
#seenoevil
#speaknoevil

Re: Speeding - Limited Resources or Limited Leadership

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:42 pm
by marklingm
Michael Deneen wrote:
Ryan Salo wrote:I also want to mention that an officer was using my driveway to do rush hour traffic radar for a little more than an hour last night and he issued 6 tickets including towing a car for someone driving with a suspended license.


So radar enforcement can mean cracking down on people without valid licenses?
I think another piece of the puzzle just fell into place.

#hearnoevil
#seenoevil
#speaknoevil



I see what you did there, Mike.

Well played.

Well played.

Re: Speeding - Limited Resources or Limited Leadership

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:37 pm
by Will Brown
So a police officer on radar enforcement duty stops a speeder, and I think speeding is about all they can discern with radar, and in citing the speeder notes a suspended license and writes another citation, and you see this as part of a cosmic puzzle?

I see it as good normal police work. Tell us more about this puzzle you see.

Re: Speeding - Limited Resources or Limited Leadership

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:58 pm
by Jim O'Bryan
Will Brown wrote:So a police officer on radar enforcement duty stops a speeder, and I think speeding is about all they can discern with radar, and in citing the speeder notes a suspended license and writes another citation, and you see this as part of a cosmic puzzle?

I see it as good normal police work. Tell us more about this puzzle you see.



Will

Funny you post this.

I was just talking with a city employee, and they were reminding me that Mayor Harbarger had
added 2 traffic ops to the police department, in light blue cars. And that they continued
through Cain, and George Administrations and was stopped by Ed FitzGerald, in favor
of Police on bikes and neighborhood stations, something that had beeen proven as
completely inefficient by the time he put them in.

Now as we look back, is it odd that the Mayor that had no license got rid of traffic police.

Oh what a tangled web they weave those that work to deceive.


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Re: Speeding - Limited Resources or Limited Leadership

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:07 am
by Bill Call
If Lakewood has over 90 police officers why are there only 8 patrol cars on the street at any one time?

Is it limited resources or misallocation of resources?

Routine traffic stops sometimes result in the arrest of the driver for other crimes. This is an older article:

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/tran ... ckets.html

It seems counter intuitive but a guy with something to hide is more likely to be stopped for a routine offense like speeding or missing tail light. Could increased police patrols for routine traffic violations reduce crime?