The Observation Deck

I truly doubt we would fill one by ourselves, unless it was a recycling can and then I know for certain we would fill one but I am just curious. I know that even though we have a very large family we produce a lot less trash than a lot of families. So I was thinking that if a typical double had to share one there might be an issue of overflowing trash and trash just sitting around. I think I should email refuse department.

The City has some information on their web site. Starting in May, every Lakewood 'household' or 'home' will get their very own 96 gallon container. The City does not define what constitutes a 'household' or 'home'. I would hope the definition would be a mailing address, thereby doubles would get two. There's also an FAQ and flyer link.

http://www.onelakewood.com/pw_refuse_green_main.html

I'll try to clarify it on the website. We're planning on one container per household, meaning 2 per double. Each container will be barcoded to a specific address.

I really would encourage anyone to contact us through the website for any other specific questions.

Your Honor,

I want you to know how much I sincerely appreciate your taking the opportunity in the past to post on this, and other threads here on the 'Deck regarding matters concerning our city.

As you are aware, I, and others, continue to have grave concerns regarding the implementation of this new trash-to-the-treelawn program, with residents soon having to haul those 96 gallon containers from their backyards to the street.

With appreciation, I have understood your wanting to manage budgetary concerns in our city.

At the same time, I would simply ask that the City takes another look at the simple fact that over 7200 look-sees have now come to this thread, and many, many more views have transpired on related threads.

As well, I need to express that a number of Lakewood residents who might be too timid, or worried to express themselves outright, have come to me, or written privately- with the hope that this issue will continue to be raised, in the hope that this project will be reconsidered.

Most recently, this week.

It that vein, I post this once again, on behalf of those who have asked that I continue to keep this issue alive.

I've also done a column regarding this issue for the Lakewood Observer, as you may have seen.

As a final point, about this "mandatory recycling" business...

There are so many questions about that working for those who do not get daily newspapers to recycle, or for those who do not normally use throw-away glass or cans. There are many, among them many elderly, who therefore, effectively, have virtually no recyclables at all.

Would they have to buy a can of pop weekly, and then "blue-bag" it just to be in compliance?

Additionally, there looms the question of dangerous cans, glass, or other items being put onto treelawns without having sanitary recycling bins provided for them. How can a city mandate recycling without providing safe bins to throw stuff into?

Does the city plan to compensate residents by a tax rebate for this additional forced labor, by the way?

Does the city also plan to compensate its rubbish haulers for doing a second job, as they assume a law enforcement role in checking out who is doing the recycling?

Please do not misunderstand me. It's not so much the recycling that's problematic, but the one-size-fits-all nature of this approach to a complex issue that bothers a number of people.

Thank you in advance for any consideration that you might give towards taking another look at these matters before they become a done deal.

Unfortunately, as time for these transitions looms ever closer, there seem to be so many more questions than there are answers.

I didn't want to start a new topic on this lovely topic. I saw the new cans arriving today as I drove down Clifton and I was shocked to see they are a good dealer smaller than the ones in Cleveland. Luckily my family of 7 doesn't produce much trash because those cans are going to be pretty darn easy to fill. Does anyone know why the city went with smaller cans than the ones in Cleveland? The good news is that they don't seem like behemoths so they should be fairly easy to move even in the snow.

Just Like Cleveland Do I Hear A Kumbaya?


They're here! Everywhere I looked all I saw was trash cans...


...and more...


... and more...


... and more.

As is the time honored way to end all discussions on the Deck, Gary
where is that banjo, let's see if we can do Kumbaya as a round.

More photos of this in the photo gallery.
http://lakewoodobserver.com/photoblogs

Danielle

It is not the size of the can, but what you put in it? OR the city is in the
business of selling garbage cans so...

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Gary Rice wrote:As a final point, about this "mandatory recycling" business...

There are so many questions about that working for those who do not get daily newspapers to recycle, or for those who do not normally use throw-away glass or cans. There are many, among them many elderly, who therefore, effectively, have virtually no recyclables at all.

Would they have to buy a can of pop weekly, and then "blue-bag" it just to be in compliance?

Additionally, there looms the question of dangerous cans, glass, or other items being put onto treelawns without having sanitary recycling bins provided for them. How can a city mandate recycling without providing safe bins to throw stuff into?

All these concerns have been replied to in the thread about this, but - compliance will not be judged by how much recycling you put out, but by whether or not recyclable material is noticeably in your trash.

Any dangerous items should not be in the recycling stream to begin with, so that is also not a problem...

As best I can determine...

These new cans cost the city (us, that is) about $900,000.

Nearly a MILLION BUCKS that is, and in this economy too....

That's one expensive pile of plastic.

And they were not needed. Everybody HAS cans already.

EACH new truck so equipped with an automated arm costs nearly $50,000 (thats FIFTY THOUSAND) dollars EXTRA.

That's EACH TRUCK...and again, in this economy.

We were told about long-term savings though....

Yeah right.

We were told that we must recycle too ...

But without a viable market for our efforts in this economy, and without a safe repository for those curbside drop-offs...

And now look here....

Nearly 8000 views on this thread...EIGHT THOUSAND!

Hmmmm....


Maybe we could take two of those dumpsters...connect 'em together with a string and make a mega-phone...(remember those tin can phones from your Science class?)

Hook up one to City Hall...the other in a public place somewhere...

Maybe then they could hear us better down there...

Are the can made from recyclable materials?

Looking at all those HUGE plastic monsters in Jimmy's pictures....

You just HAVE to know WHAT will be coming next....

Because you see it in Cleveland....

So get ready...

To see us spend another virtual MILLION DOLLARS pretty soon...

on a bunch of those BLUE recycle tubs...

a big blue sea of plastic....

Just like Big Sister Cleveland has ALREADY...



Kumbayah Jimmy?

I'm thinking about BURNING that freaking banjo.

Well, maybe it could recycle or something...

Gary Rice wrote:
Kumbayah Jimmy?

I'm thinking about BURNING that freaking banjo.

Well, maybe it could recycle or something...

Ohhhhhhh

I see.

We have to sing Kumbaya in my threads, but in yours...

Ohhhhhh

Gary, I believe this is what you are missing.

It is all connected.

Do you really believe that if you look at signs and flower boxes
and not all of the empty stores

is not related to...

The entire world has turned into a magic show of misdirection.

And those that have no answers, those that have no substance
hide.

Because they hate to be called liars, so they simply shut up and
go back behind closed doors, with the knowledge
"the gifted will find like minded and lead us out of the darkness."

It is far easier to not lie, not discuss openly,
than to do the right thing.

Now where is that damn banjo Gary?

Could we get a committee to find Gary's banjo?


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We heard that some kids were having a good time playing with those new garbage cans last night...

Jim,

Oops, sorry.

I did not realize that these threads were "yours", "mine", and "ours".

And you have a point of course.

One person's beef is as valid as another's...

Perhaps on "your" thread, I could have suggested another number to sing.

As I write this, the new behmoths presently line Lake Avenue.

That's interesting. I would have guessed that having ugly containers blowing around the streets would have started on Athens.

Actually, I would have thought that the routes that had been so carefully plotted out would have been maintained, but I guess the City wants to start with a long, straight shot. I wonder, does that mean Lake will have a single pick-up day?

I certainly would not consider them behemoths. The don't seem much larger than a regular trash can and they have wheels. Gary are you glad they are a good deal smaller than the cans Cleveland residents have?